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Discovering spirit of Australia : Comments

By David Cusworth, published 12/6/2011

Reflections on Australia's place in the world for Pentecost

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Did the Aboriginal spirit triumph in those instances?
Posted by McReal, Tuesday, 14 June 2011 7:24:02 AM
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Good question. Pentecost is about all people sharing the gifts of the Spirit. Claiming the continent in the name of the Spirit for a particular king doesn't sit well with that, nor does declaring Terra Nullius. Pentecost seems to be a work in progress; every time we break down a barrier to mutual understanding we get closer. Having a universal language helps but it's not the whole story.
Posted by Cuz, Tuesday, 14 June 2011 10:24:14 AM
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cuz said...""Pentecost..is about all people
sharing the gifts..of the Spirit.""

thats a darn good way to look at it

so what were..[are]..the hiden gifts
from THESE lands peoples

we are a part of the land
like our hand is a part of our body
inseperable

we are each here to 'be'..gods gift to each other
[by seeking to know other..we know more of the one good..[god]

we se in this land first people
a people who were healthy/strong..caring/sharing

they KNEW..we dont poop into water
yet when xtains came...we were told that thats the civil thing to do

this xtian way of thoughtlessly following
has many bad fruits...witness the murder of rivers/seas oceons

the latest is to kill off our own living roots
vents on the bottum of the strait..that have rich mineral content

[where they pulverise a whole LIVING ego system..
to extract the value..then pump the dead slurry
back under the waters..to polute it ALL..unseen

this couldnt happen in the dreamtime..[turned nightmare]
cause NO_ONE was allowed to take..more than half of anything

but now we got greedy
taking it all

we had laws for breeding[skin groups]
we are ONLY ruled by FULL concensus
[if we dont ALL agree..its just not on]

if you break our laws
your made an outcast

and marks put upon your body
indicate the crime

there is much to share
but we need only look back at our roots
and take ONLY the best bits..not the pain..hurt murder
[that clearly isnt GOOD from god..if its not good for ALL..its not of god]

thus good isnt a good gift
we are asked to share our goodness
and attempt to subvert our darkness

but the main law..is dont murder
[ie war is a sin..get it]

the living good/god
is all living loving each-other with grace mercy forgiveness
[or you will be disowned]..

indeed many MATERIALISTS..claiming to be of christ...
dont serve christ[spirit]..or serve..the wrong spirit

we all know good/fruit from bad...
but even bad/fruit..should be given a chance
to lift its game

dont cast stones..
because stones can kill..[ie MURDER]..

love god
by loving neighbour
Posted by one under god, Tuesday, 14 June 2011 10:54:21 AM
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This must be one of the most unmitigated load of garbage that has ever been featured on OLO.

He describes European colonialism and imperialism as the "bringing of the light" and that "god decided its fate" as a justification for all of the inevitable slaughters.

Pedantic as usual applied christian politics 101

http://www.dartmouth.edu/~spanmod/mural/panel13.html
http://www.jesusneverexisted.com/cruelty.html

Plus additional references:

The American Holocaust
http://www.thirdworldtraveler.com/History/American_Holocaust.html

Columbus & Other Cannibals
http://nas.ucdavis.edu/Forbes/CANNIBALS.html

Plus check out God Is Red, and Custer Died For Your Sins by Vine Deloria Jnr.

Most of the above is in the context of USA history, but the deadly genocidal force thus described was dramatized all over the world.
The colonial conquest of Australia was relatively undramatic because there not many "aborigines" here to be dispossessed and EXTERMINATED (as there were in the Americas)

Meanwhile it was Christian Europe that gave the entire world both World Wars.
Supposedly part of the process of the "bringing of the light",and of "god deciding the fate" of humankind, or "god's plan" altogether.

Onward christian soldiers forever marching into war.

Remember that George W Bush justified the invasion of Iraq because "god" told him to. He also initially justified it as a crusade.
Posted by Ho Hum, Tuesday, 14 June 2011 10:56:41 AM
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I agree, Ho Hum. This has to be the biggest load of bollocks I've read at On Line Opinion.

Sure, people like to attach the oddest meanings to the most banal of events, but this is verging on Dan Brown-style inanity. Fairy tales for the credulous, nothing to see here.
Posted by morganzola, Tuesday, 14 June 2011 11:17:05 AM
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I think it was the Christians who invented the wheel.

And sliced bread.

The internet.

Oh the list of Christian accomplishments is infinite. Wish my patience with them was the same.
Posted by Ammonite, Tuesday, 14 June 2011 12:37:19 PM
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