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Palestine: FIFA relents but rules are still bent : Comments

By David Singer, published 7/6/2011

FIFA has been in the media spotlight this week as its practices and procedures have come under increasing scrutiny and its conduct has become of great concern to many of its member countries.

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Another good example of the Zionists trying to grind the Palestinian into the ground. Shame on you.

David
Posted by VK3AUU, Tuesday, 7 June 2011 10:03:36 AM
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So what have you achieved David Singer? That you are a mean, fearful and vindictive little man? By carrying out your brave little task you shout from the roof top that Israel does not have a recognised border.
Israel exists only by force of arms. There is no give and take, no meaningful negotions, only an eye for an eye, a tooth for a tooth, which means an eventual hiding to nowhere. The US is fast loosing the power to protect. Do you think China will gaurantee Israels 'borders'?

Bruce Haigh
Posted by Bruce Haigh, Tuesday, 7 June 2011 10:56:24 AM
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FIFA is a corrupt, nepotistic organisation with zero credibility. It's no surprise it promotes corrupt policies.
Posted by DavidL, Tuesday, 7 June 2011 11:02:09 AM
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Does Singer seriously suggest that the Palestinians shouldn't be able to participate in international football?

He quotes FIFA that "Palestine is an exceptional situation for FIFA. Therefore, we need to find exceptional solutions".

So what else would Singer suggest? Presumably something based on his notion that Palestine somehow "belongs" to Israel. Full marks to FIFA for rejecting that!
Posted by jeremy, Tuesday, 7 June 2011 11:36:01 AM
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“Whether Israel agreed to the Palestinian Football Association being admitted as a FIFA member is unknown. Certainly it would never have done so in the expectation that FIFA would recognise Palestine as an independent State”.

The freedom loving countries of the world, therefore the greatest majority of the UN members, do not see it as necessary to ask Israel for its permission for anything to happen in what the world sees as Palestine. As a Jewish propagandist, Mr Singer is blinded by the material he tries to distribute Goebbels-like to the masses via these columns.

Absolute arrogance!

“Countries joining the rush to the United Nations to play this fictitious game in September will do their credibility no good and will become active players in undermining international law”

Let us see, Mr. Singer, if this is so. For 60 years. Israel has run roughshod over a world who initially sympathised with the results of the Third Reich’s attack on Gypsies , Jews and other ethnic groups. The actions of the oppressor Israel since those days has more than cancelled out all that initial sympathy, burnt out year after year though murder, inhumanity and just plain cruelty as late as this week, their apartheid policies and ethnic cleansing, making the South African experiences pale by comparison.

“FIFA has clearly taken its eye off the ball in making such a decision and scored an own goal “

Again, Mr. Singer has aimed his vitriol, as is his normal practice, at anyone or anything that does not conform to Israel’s distorted view of their particular norms, this time aimed at FIFA by stating that it will be “earning scorn and derision as it lives in its own dream world of make believe and fantasy”.

The ‘make believe’ to which he refers is what Mr. Singer and his ilk have enjoyed since Nakba in 1948.

Finally, you would have to be really jaundiced just to stop Palestinians from playing Soccer.

Have we ever seen a more glaring example of evil Jewish pettiness.
Posted by rexw, Tuesday, 7 June 2011 12:42:23 PM
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#To all who have lost their composure and gone gangbusters to date let me remind you:

1. FIFA had misleading and deceptive material on its website and had acted contrary to its own Constitution.

2. My complaint to FIFA has commendably seen some of the offending material removed from the website but some still remains

3. FIFA administers Soccer which is played according to a set of rules.

4. FIFA is playing politics not in accordance with its own rules.

Do you think this is right and appropriate for an organization of such great international stature?

Again you choose to have a cheap shot at me and ignore the message.

Pity you can't concentrate on FIFA's misleading and deceptive conduct.

That is what my article addresses.

I guess that would be expecting too much of you all.
Posted by david singer, Tuesday, 7 June 2011 3:03:50 PM
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'That is what my article addresses'.

What your article addresses reflects a vindictive nature. The fact that there are technically no borders will eventually be to Palestine's advantage, hopefully in September.

'I guess that would be expecting too much of you all'.

As Australians, we have some failings, yes. But Australians, that is people either born here, or with one loyalty to this country and with our own country's interests at heart and certainly bearing no allegiance to any other country but Australia, we generally believe in a fair go, contrary to what Israel ever believed in and which does not include vindictiveness, hatred and the control of other nations by force.

Goyims we ain't, regardless of what your Rabbis state.

You start off on your anti-FIFA exercise but turn it qickly into a self-promotional effort of....aren't I clever...I have stuck it up FIFA's nose, made them acte on my demands, made it difficult for Palestinians to play soccer (at the moment), shown yet again how unpleasant I am as a person and how dedicated I am on behalf of my masters.

You must be scoring some points, somewhere, but not here in Australia.

Read the comments. You isolate yourself by your own rhetoric, not of interest to Australians. Do an article for the AJN. They're all probably like-minded. .

We are fair-minded people. Mr. Singer. There's the basic difference.
Posted by Rhys Stanley, Tuesday, 7 June 2011 4:13:57 PM
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#To Rhys Stanley

Like those who responded before you, there appears to be no disapproval or acknowledgement by you of FIFA's action in falsely declaring Palestine to be a country - and still continuing to do so despite the omission of some deceptive and misleading material.

This is the very essence of propaganda - creating and repeating false facts over and over again to influence public opinion.

You state:

"We are fair-minded people. Mr. Singer."

Fair minded people cannot possibly condone FIFA's deception and misrepresentation that has been allowed to go unchallenged for the past 12 years. At least FIFA has had the decency to partly fess up to its conduct. You haven't
Posted by david singer, Tuesday, 7 June 2011 6:54:37 PM
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Why don't you argue that Israel is on the Asian continent and should have no right to play in the UAEFA league or any other European competition?

I guess a 'exceptional situations' are only ok when they apply to Israel.

Maybe next time you could write an article about Jewish thugs shouting down elected representatives of Australian Parliaments on talkshows like Q & A last night. It would be a lot more relevant to Australian audiences than your manic obsession with wiping Palestine off the map.
Posted by dane, Tuesday, 7 June 2011 9:47:12 PM
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#To dane

You - like those ranters before you - refuse to express an opinion on FIFA's action in using false and misleading material on its website.

FIFA is not one of the thousands of rabid Jew-hating sites spewing out false information on the Arab-Jewish conflict. When FIFA descends to such a low level - its conduct needs to be exposed and efforts made to get it to delete the offensive material.

Do you condone FIFA's behavior or don't you? Do you believe in the propagation of false information on the internet?

Spending your time discussing these issues would prove more beneficial than trying to raise other issues that have no relevance to the subject matter of my article.
Posted by david singer, Wednesday, 8 June 2011 9:19:09 AM
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Mr Singer,

The commenters on this thread "got" the gist of your message loud and clear.

Any so-called "conduct" by FIFA pales in comparison to the real issue here.
Posted by Poirot, Wednesday, 8 June 2011 9:45:32 AM
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"FIFA relents but rules are still bent."

What rules were bent admittingn Israel to the OECD?

What rules are bent to allow Israel to ignore UN resolutions?

What about the Eurovision Song Contest? OK, let them sing while the Palestinians play soccer. Don't get too petty, Peter.
Posted by Stan1, Saturday, 11 June 2011 4:00:58 PM
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#Stan1

Tell us

1. What rules were bent to permit Israel to join the OECD?

2. What rules are bent to allow Israel to ignore UN Resolutions?

3. Well what about the Eurovision Song Contest - what is your point?

I detailed in my article the specific rules FIFA bent in order to admit Palestine as a member of FIFA.

You should specifically detail your allegations about the OECD, UN resolutions and the Song Contest.

Your generalised and unsubstantiated claims are not worth the paper they are written on. So give us some detail please.
Posted by david singer, Sunday, 12 June 2011 10:40:37 AM
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It's clear from Singer's article that FIFA had a way of admitting a place like Palestine, and that the way they admitted Palestine didn't conform to it. Israel has allowed a degree of self-rule in the area it was, and is, forced to administer, but whether the self rule extends to international sporting associations is a real question. Are there any other such institutions which have admitted Palestine, or dealt with a request for admission? (Knowing that soccer is probably the most popular game for males in the West bank and Gaza)
It isn't really very important: it may be indicative of sloppy administration, or it may have been at the request of some Muslim Arabs who were quite aware of what they were doing. Of course, if it has been an attempt to get others involved, who do not usually get involved in this issue, it might yet backfire. I don't imagine that those who would normally stay out of politics, once engaged in this issue through their favourite passtime, would be very eager to pick up the jihad and kill Jews so that the Palestinian Arabs can have all of the rest of Palestine, after Jordan already got most of it.
Posted by camo, Tuesday, 14 June 2011 3:54:34 PM
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#To camo

FIFA's breach of its own rules should be compared to the treatment FIFA handed out to Kosovo.

In October 2008, the Fédération Internationale de Football Association (FIFA) rejected the Football Federation of Kosovo (FFK) application for affiliation, as it was deemed not to comply with article 10 of the FIFA statutes, which stipulates that only "an independent state recognised by the international community" may be admitted. As a result, Kosovo cannot play any friendly FIFA matches.

The double standards employed by FIFA are glaringly obvious
Posted by david singer, Tuesday, 14 June 2011 8:39:50 PM
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