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To Paris undercover: resistance to French bans on Muslim women’s ‘cover’ : Comments

By Jocelynne Scutt, published 27/5/2011

Terrorism laws that shaped the Northern Ireland ‘troubles’ have been replaced with laws that shape how Muslim women are subjugated in France. Laws banning Muslim women’s ‘cover’ might yet come to Australia.

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To Mr Individual.

Reasoned arguments and objective analysis trumps sneery one liners everytime. If you can't manage to support your premises with a logical position, then at least sit in the corner, button up, and wait until you have the confidence to cross swords with the people who's opinions you disagree with.

A bit of sneery sarcasm is acceptable, provided that you have the stones to stick your neck out and make assertions you are prepred to defend. But just sitting around and heckling the people who are prepared to verbally face off with others, is a cowardly tactic, and not worthy of any person who considers themselves intelligent.

Please come back when you have the guts to submit a position you are willing to argue.

If people like you are representative of the left wing position, then I am glad that you are on the opposing side, and not on my side. Any fair minded person who's opinion can be swayed by reasoned argument would hardly be impressed with people who can only sneer, heckle and insult.
Posted by LEGO, Sunday, 29 May 2011 6:49:44 PM
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mac & LEGO,
It is obvious you didn't & rather likely never will get the gist. You simply find it easier to snap back with accusations rather than answers. Typical of people who tolerate nonsense but not sense.
Me a leftie ? are you totally off colour today ?
Posted by individual, Sunday, 29 May 2011 7:51:59 PM
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Posted by Jayb, Sunday, 29 May 2011 8:42:12 PM
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In Australia as in the U.K. and Europe, this trend is evident in attacks on multiculturalism. It is exemplified by the banning of ‘cover’ being worn by women in France, Belgium, parts of Italy and Barcelona, or in demands that governments engage in the outlawing of the scarf, the niqab, the burqah or equivalent forms of cover worn by some Muslim women. In Australia, Senator Cory Bernadi has said that a ban must proceed, in order to protect the Australian community from robbers and ‘ne’er do wells’ wrapping themselves up in burqahs to escape detection. How a miscreant could escape amidst the billowing skirts of the garment hanging about their legs and interfering with their perambulation is mystifying. Nonetheless, his call has been joined by Fred Nile, member of the NSW Legislative Council and leader of a political party known as the Christian Democrats. Other political voices have been raised in favour of a ban, although the countervailing position is currently holding favour. No legislation appears, as yet at least, to be in prospect.

There's a huge religious plot going on, and the major religions are behind paying the ones that are not welcome or do not try to fit in with multiculturalism, and Pat Condell is sees right through the game.

Religious leaders are going to try anything.

Just wait and see.

LEAP
Posted by Quantumleap, Monday, 30 May 2011 3:33:18 AM
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How a miscreant could escape amidst the billowing skirts of the garment hanging about their legs and interfering with their perambulation is mystifying.
Quantumleap,
This is a perfect example of missing the point. Question, how do you identify a miscreant among several people wearing identical/very similar garments ?
I bet you couldn't identify one member of a brass band if they all wore hoods.
Posted by individual, Monday, 30 May 2011 6:34:34 AM
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I'd rather not have a ban, I want less government interference in peoples lives, not more.

I do though disagree with many of the arguments used to oppose the ban.

Most of this has already been said by others.

The law already limit's peoples freedoms to dress as they please. Rarely can people go about nude in public and for the most part women are not allowed to go topless in public.

Muslim's are not a race, the racism argument is blatently false.

Most of what I've read on the topic suggests that for the most part the wearing of the full face covering in western countries is a choice by the woman, not imposed by a male who won't let her out of the house without one.

The wearing of full face coverings isw not mandated by Islam.

I tend to agree with the observation that the wearing of the full face coverings is beginning to sound like an "Up Yours" statement by some of the wearers, for many it is certainly an attempt to show muslim identity, to be marked out as different.

R0bert
Posted by R0bert, Monday, 30 May 2011 6:37:44 AM
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