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Climate change: a warning from the past : Comments

By Andrew Glikson, published 11/4/2011

Rate of change of temperature has been unprecedented these last two centuries.

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Herr Glickson lost a debate on this matter with Science Journalist Jo Nova. Seems he still can't get over the loss, the same old arguments keep appearing. See http://joannenova.com.au/tag/glikson-dr-andrew/
Posted by MarcH, Monday, 11 April 2011 7:15:37 AM
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There is now serious talk of getting the government to issue
charges of treason (typical teapartyer term) to those in academia who knowingly lead us to a false war against climate variation. The scientists who condemned billions to a death for 25 years by unstoppable warming have not responded like concerned professionals to Obama’s abandoning of their recommendations for climate mitigation and the loss of IPCC funding. Only stubborn and out dated political ideologues, new agers and lazy copy and paste news editors still pay attention to the CO2 mistake and now we even see media generating their own stories about climate hell just to keep the feeding frenzy alive. And how odd is it that fringe fear mongers and news editors take the “crisis” more seriously than the lab coat consultants (scientists) who started this madness in the first place. And how ironic is that these are the same scientists who were demonized by enviro groups for poisoning the planet in the first place with their chemicals and pesticides. Scientists were always the enemy but this mass insanity of climate blame made them into gods to worshiped unquestionably like eco Greenzis. Scientists produced cruise missiles, cancer causing chemicals, land mine technology, nuclear weapons, germ warfare, cluster bombs, strip mining technology, Y2K, Y2Kyoto, deep sea drilling technology and now climate control.
Posted by mememine69, Monday, 11 April 2011 8:23:30 AM
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"There is now serious talk of getting the government to issue
charges of treason (typical teapartyer term) to those in academia who knowingly lead us to a false war against climate variation."

That would appear to be as senseless as the alarmists insisting that anyone who is not a believer be charged with treason, as they call for regularly on the ABC and other leftie blogs, to make skepticism of AGW a crime.

Pretty graphs, but it's clear in the "debate" now, that no one cares any longer about the science, it's all about the tax, who will and won't pay and whether the ALP can sell us on the idea that only polluters pay (like we're not all breathing out CO2).

We will still not get any closer to proving CO2 is a danger, we will get more projections, predictions and forecasts, all about as reliable as the BOM telling us the weather in 2 weeks, as if!
Posted by rpg, Monday, 11 April 2011 8:35:26 AM
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Thanks for the science, Andrew.
It is unfortunate that it is not given the consideration it deserves by those who have the power to lead the community towards adequate precautions.
Not that there is anything new about that. Nine hundred years ago a gifted astronomer declared that people in his society were in an age when men of science were discredited, while others spent their time mixing truth with falsehood
Posted by colinsett, Monday, 11 April 2011 8:47:30 AM
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No point arguing about it.
The IPCC has the wrong figures for the amount of fossil fuels available.
Until they fix that no one knows what they are talking about.
Posted by Bazz, Monday, 11 April 2011 9:16:10 AM
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Oh come on colinset, the mainstream "science" today for climate is involved in a consensus of thought, against anyone who declares skepticisml - your analogy is the exact opposite of what happened then to now.

Anyone who dares question the consensus faith, AGW and Alarmism, is drowed out, given no room on say our national broadcaster, who appears to be running now a campaign again Bob Carter.

Bob Carter is more like Galileo questioning the consensus faith, that of alarmism and AGW.

How does that support your notion that:

"Nine hundred years ago a gifted astronomer declared that people in his society were in an age when men of science were discredited, while others spent their time mixing truth with falsehood"

The ones who mix truth with falsehood, like Flannery who can never remember what he has said, like the ABC's Robin Williams "you have to scare people to get their attention" who predicts 100m of sea rise.

Like the many prophets who all keep creeping their "projections"

Talk about trying manipulate and twist the truth.

How often have you heard a skeptic actually given a reasonable run on the ABC, usually they are picked out of context with a panel of alarmists allowed to comment and slander uninhibited.

What a dreamworld some people live in, if you think there is actually a debate going on at all. The ones who control the "science", have all the funding in the world, complete control over the ABC and Fairfax press.

You even have a lobby group organizing stupid people to protest, well not protest, but gather as group to demand to be taxed .. and you think there is no mindset against anyone who questions the faith.

In the advertising to organize the "demanders" they clearly state it is to counter people who are skeptical, and they call them extremists, to question the consensus is now "extremist", and done by .. what did Greg Combet say, oh yes, "ratbags"

Sounds like your exact description, reversed.
Posted by Amicus, Monday, 11 April 2011 9:24:10 AM
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