Jewelry,

With more than 70 000 personnel how on the basis of a handful of bad examples can you claim that most of the 1000s of disciplinary cases are not followed in a procedurally fair way?

SM:”With more than 70 000 personnel how on the basis of a handful of bad examples can you claim that most of the 1000s of disciplinary cases are not followed in a procedurally fair way?”

Unlike other examples of whistle blowing on government departments etc the military is in a unique position to deal quietly with its people or send them off to some front line? Not the women though eh.

I also don't know what contracts they sign and like other departments what non-disclosure stuff there is after compensation or if compensation is paid or what kind of courts/inquiries this sort of thing can go through. Anyone know?

A thought… They are cult-like. I understand they have to be to a certain extent to do their job but it would mean speaking out against superiors would be extremely uncommon. They go in young and are sucked into a certain culture and if there is 70k of them then everyone you are likely to know has also been programmed a certain way.

Jewely, why should there be any compensation? What are you thinking of, Kate being compensated for when she shouldn't have been having sex? This is what Mike Carlton said about her in the article I referred to above:"Kate, the RAAF cadet, was no doe-eyed innocent. She had already been charged with being AWOL and drinking offences, and she knew sex between students was forbidden."

Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/opinion/society-and-culture/the-truth-behind-sex-lies-and-skype-20110415-1dhpx.html#ixzz1K9mODgTy

Jewel,

As none of those involved had been with the ADF college for more than 10 weeks, it is a bit of a stretch to claim this as ADF culture. Having had the misfortune of being exposed once to schoolies week, I have seen far far worse.

As for non disclosure, while I am not familiar with the ADF policy, for the various companies I have worked, unauthorised press releases were a dismiss-able offence.

Hey Ros, I wasn’t really thinking about Kate. And eeww schoolies. Doesn’t matter when dealing with any offense what offenses the victim might also be guilty of does it?

I don’t know much about the military either but in general if you get ignored or feeling the punishments for complaining within a company/department and your politicians wont listen isn’t the media the last place that is left to go here?