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Was it whistleblowing? : Comments

By Peter Bowden, published 11/4/2011

The eighteen year old Defence Force Academy complainant is a whistleblower, and ought to be protected.

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In Bagram & Kandaha AFB, porno films are shown regularly, as morale boosters, and is widely replicated in all Defense establishments - it's part of Military folklore and ADF culture.

In Smith's view, women will in future serve in the Special Forces, on submarines, in boiler-rooms in 40 degrees heat, in grease, paint and excreta. They will carry out all the onerous jobs hitherto been absolved from ? They will have absolute freedom in all the mess's, and can look forward to attaining four star advancement in Rank.

Of course, pregnancy, physical fitness, tattooing, unplanned abortions, showering, and privacy will be up for grabs.

Trouble is, science & technology have outsmarted the Military - still engaged in class warfare, awarding tin-pot medals and accolades, self-promotion, and delusional third rate, borrowed equipment and armaments.

Cadet Officer Kate, should thank her lucky stars, she wasn't a spiked victim of GHB, and her fantasy video clip was not broadcast on My Face, Orkut or U Tube.

Wouldn't that be something !
Posted by dalma, Saturday, 16 April 2011 12:53:09 PM
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Dalma,
steady on, you're bringing our brave young fighting men and women into disrepute. We're conditioned not to criticise the military, indeed to lionise its personnel without qualification. How else can we rationalise the evils rationalised during wars? During peacetime we only see them on ceremonial occasions and all respectable. I had two brothers in the navy, one on subs, and I can vouch for your account of the goings on, dalma. I well remember boats of over 500 hundred cases of VD among a ship's complement of 340 after a few stops around south east Asia--and my brother didn't contract it!
But sorry, this is sacrilege--mustn't criticise..
Posted by Squeers, Saturday, 16 April 2011 5:42:18 PM
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"I well remember 'boasts' of over 500 case.." that should have read.
Posted by Squeers, Saturday, 16 April 2011 5:57:35 PM
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“Illegal” seems to be just one aspect of disclosing practices of an organizations or person that labels someone a whistleblower.

So yes I think it was.

How she was treated after blowing the whistle appears to be classic treatment by persons or organizations being accused of illegal, immoral or illegitimate practices.

“I am sure that with thousands of employees the military has lots of dirty laundry, and it is dealt with in a fair and procedurally correct manner nearly all the time.”

What country are you in SM?
Posted by Jewely, Saturday, 16 April 2011 6:15:30 PM
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The brother who was on subs hated it (being 6'3 on subs is bad for the back) and got back on ships by complaining that life on subs was eroding his moral fibre. He told me himself that it was commonplace to find men masturbating in the mess over porno flicks. It went on on ships too of course, but at least you could get some fresh air on deck.
True story.
Posted by Squeers, Saturday, 16 April 2011 6:28:57 PM
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Mr Bowden this is some of what Mike Carlton has to say in his SMH article of 16.04.11:

"I have spent a week talking to my contacts in the ADF. Some facts might be useful.
Kate, the RAAF cadet, was no doe-eyed innocent. She had already been charged with being AWOL and drinking offences, and she knew sex between students was forbidden.
There is no longer a subculture of sexual bullying at the academy, nor a blokey conspiracy of silence. The gormless teenage oafs who tormented Kate had been there barely 10 weeks. Her ordeal was reported by a male cadet.
The academy commandant, Commodore Bruce Kafer, immediately called the Australian Federal Police. He did not order Kate to apologise to her fellow cadets for going public on the affair."

Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/opinion/society-and-culture/the-truth-behind-sex-lies-and-skype-20110415-1dhpx.html#ixzz1JsYVlCns

Mr Bowden, if Mr Carlton is correct, I would say you are talking through your chivalrous academic hat particularly in regard to the comments you have made about Commodore Bruce Kafer.
Posted by Roscop, Monday, 18 April 2011 11:09:57 PM
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