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West's history not complete without reference to Christianity : Comments

By Chris Berg, published 29/3/2011

While one needn't be Christian to be part of a liberal democracy, it helps to understand Christianity.

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Of course Christianity was an integral player in the history of the West and by extension the entire world.

It became the world dominant religion for all sorts of reasons, none of which had anything to to with the the great calling of Jesus to love God totally, and then on that basis, to practice self-transcending love in all relations and under all conditions. And the profound instructions re how to live a truly moral life as given in the Sermon on the Mount.

Indeed "Paul" and the church fathers very quickly turned this radical Spiritual Teaching into a very worldly power and control seeking religion about Jesus.

The rest is of course HIS-story which is portrayed in this one stark image.
http://www.dartmouth.edu/~spanmod/mural/panel13.html

And as described here: http://www.jesusneverexisted.com/darkness.html

The first image is featured in The Pentagon of Power by Lewis Mumford (1972).
As is this image which pictures in very stark terms what Western "Civilization" was/is really all about in the 20th and 21st Centuries - namely trashing the planet and all of human culture too.

http://www.dartmouth.edu/~spanmod/mural/panel14.html

After 40 years The Pentagon of Power is still one of the best books re what Western "Civilization" is really all about - namely the drive to gain power and control over every one and every thing.

The book describes the origins and historical developments of what Mumford called the Invisible Mega-Machine, and what I call the "culture" of death.

Forty years later the situation described by Mumford is infinitely worse and ALL of the dreadful things that he prophetically
warned us about have manifested, and to a degree that he would have been horrified. Indeed, during his last public interview (1989)before he died in 1990 Mumford expressed profound despair at the then state of the world, and where it was obviously heading.
Posted by Ho Hum, Tuesday, 29 March 2011 9:43:23 AM
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“Julia Gillard's declaration over the weekend that she would like the Bible taught in schools seems odd, given she's Australia's most prominent atheist.”

Labor’s dumbing down of curriculums is well-known but their attacks on Christianity stand out. Gillard’s attempt at sucking up to Christians though is a disgrace. Well, it was election time in NSW.

Who can trust a word she says? Gillard respects the Bible but launched an anti-Christian curriculum? How irrational.
Posted by BPT, Tuesday, 29 March 2011 9:45:19 AM
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Julia along with Tony Abbott only need to look at their own depravity and compulsion to tell half truths or full lies to realise their need of a Saviour. The bible clearly reveals who that Saviour is. Unfortunately the idiotic secular humanism taught over the last few decades that denies the corrupt nature of mankind has led to fatherless kids, broken marriage, rapid increase in child sexual abuse, violence against oldies, increase std's, the murder of millions of unborn, the exalting of repulsive cultural practices etc etc . Repentance is what is needed from Julia and her tribe not trying to appeal to every electoral lobby gropup.
Posted by runner, Tuesday, 29 March 2011 10:03:15 AM
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Christianity was certainly a dominant force in our history.

However, it is increasingly clear that it probably won't be much of an influence in our future.
Posted by Shadow Minister, Tuesday, 29 March 2011 11:22:17 AM
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I always find it amusing when anyone from the IPA (the home of one-dimensional man)prattles on about religion and/or God.

Chris was/is the editor of the IPA Review. You will never ever find even a smidgen of a religiously informed Consciousness in that magazine, or any other right-wing publication.

What is commonly recognized promoted and defended as religion in our Age is only the most superficial and factional and most-often dim-minded and perverse expressions of ancient power and control seeking ancient national and tribal cultism.

ALL the "God" and "Gods" of humankind are, whether male of female in their descriptive gender, mere and self-serving projections of the human ego-mind.

These references provide a unique radical criticism of the self-serving nature of conventional exoteric Christian-ISM.

On the fabricated origins, and institutional purposes of the Bible. Purposes which were intended to consolidate the power and privileges of the church "fathers" who won the culture wars of their time and place.

http://www.beezone.com/up/forgottenesotericismjesus.html

Two essays on the dim-witted limitations and self-serving purposes of conventional exoteric religiosity.

http://www.beezone.com/up/criticismcuresheart.html

http://www.beezone.com/up/propheticcriticismreligions.html
Posted by Ho Hum, Tuesday, 29 March 2011 11:26:59 AM
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SM writes

'However, it is increasingly clear that it probably won't be much of an influence in our future.'

He obviously ignores or has not read the end of the book that does not lie. Every knee will bow and every tongue will confess Jesus Christ as Lord. This can be done voluntarily or it will be done involuntarily.
Posted by runner, Tuesday, 29 March 2011 11:53:46 AM
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