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Stop bombing Libya : Comments

By Marjorie Cohn, published 24/3/2011

The UN has not authorised regime change in Libya, and the international forces must back off.

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Not in my name Obama. Kids died, Democrats and UN tools lied.
Posted by BPT, Thursday, 24 March 2011 3:50:49 PM
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Hmmm, I think Pericles is right. My contribution was a bit soft.

I am rarely hawkish as the Americans have a nasty knack of getting bogged down in horribly protracted conflicts. But neither do I think the UN should stand back (as they have done before - and almost did this time) and let Gaddafi exterminate the rebels - which he would surely do.

Cultural pessimists say things like 'Oh, we're all doomed, too many people, no food, global warming, end of Europe, end of American military might, age of ennui, here come the decadents,' etc.

We could stand back and watch a blood bath (ala Bosnia) and then be racked with middle class guilt - or we could bomb those people we don't like and draw a 1000 kg cluster bomb in the sand and say step over that and you're dead.

People will say, 'but you don't have the right'. Yes we do. Who says? We do.

Or we could sit around and talk about that nasty bloke Gaddafi and twiddle our thumbs. Nah. Bomb them.
Posted by Cheryl, Thursday, 24 March 2011 4:15:03 PM
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pericles , oh dear someone is disagreeing with you .. a difference of opinion, therefore, they must be .. what, drunk?

"The point of my posting is not to say hey, I've got a solution. Because I believe that the issues are not as easily solved as they obviously appear to you after a couple of schooners with your mates down the RSL"

such a p*ss weak response .. but not unexpected, since your argument is so weak that you have to resort to personal attacks since you dislike or cannot deal with the person's opinion

get over it sunshine, many people in life, do not think the way you do .. you need to accept that, adapt and move on

bomb them, no leave them to it .. why, yes .. that's indeed what we should do since there is no way to help anyone out here, regardless of what you do, you will be the villain

we need to stop interfering .. leave them to it, as I said, the rebels did not want help

why do they get to say when the world steps in or does not step in .. it's their battle, it's a sovereign country

the left cannot rule the world with their hand wringing, it simply doesn't work

I am highly amused by President Obama's dilemma .. he thought GW Bush's path was wrong and said so, now he's doing the same thing

you need to stop this urge to scold everyone who does not agree .. most of us just find your outrage .. amusing,

suck it up, you're responses to the world's problems are quite amusing .. yes/no/yes/maybe/bomb them/not too hard/back off/scold/not scold .. oh dear now what .. oh, you over there, you're wrong .. quick find a scapegoat .. (no wonder Australia is such a mess ruled by the Indiegreenalps)
Posted by Amicus, Thursday, 24 March 2011 5:05:41 PM
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I take amicus point. I was shocked and a little angered that the Rebels jailed and then escorted out of the country a british delegation who were attempting to give them some assistance. When they thought they were winning they wanted nothing to do with the crusaders.

I'm not sure he can claim with any certainty that the crowds who cheered home the lockerbie bomber, weren't the diehard gaddafi supporters.

In any case, by intervening to protect the lives of civillians, and the rebel forces, the west at least has some chance of shaping events in that country for the better.

Frankly I'm gettingsick of hereing the far left, deny the legitemacy of these actions by invoking Mugabe, or Kim Jong Il. I agree, they are tyrants. But neither of them has been smashing through the countryside with a brigade of tanks and atillery in the recent future, if ever. UN intervention these days requires 1) a immediate crisis, with civillians at risk. 2) It requires broad global support. The African Union would never support the intervention in Zimbabwe. A key difference in this case was the support of the Arab League

Furthermore, intervention was within the capability of the countries involved to achieve without massive cost. Intervention in North Korea is patently not.

I would love the far lefty's here to explain to me just where there is benefit in attacking Libya, a country we have only recently brought in from the cold. Oil was flowing freely and Gaddafi was a responsble citizen.

Now, Oil flow from libya has basically stopped. The price has shot up to 115 dollars a barrel after spending most of last year at an average of $75. And the US buys 66% of its oil overseas, so this absolutely hurts the US economy, which is currently attemting to claw its way back from recession.

Winge if you like about the US failure to act in other circumstances. But that has no bearing on the merits of intervening now in Libya.
Posted by PaulL, Thursday, 24 March 2011 10:15:56 PM
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...The Middle East is a jigsaw of complexity beyond the understanding of most. Unfortunately the Americans are not particularly good at amicable agreements, but must be given credit for their long history of stepping forward to the fray, God bless em!...
Posted by diver dan, Thursday, 24 March 2011 10:19:25 PM
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You're a puzzle, Amicus. Quite an enigma.

What has made you so excited all of a sudden?

>>pericles , oh dear someone is disagreeing with you .. a difference of opinion, therefore, they must be .. what, drunk?<<

Where's the difference of opinion?

>>My opinion is supported by my convictions<<

So it would be good if you made those convictions clear, perhaps, instead of simply slagging off at me for some imaginary injury.

You are a) in favour of b) against US military intervention in Libya.

And just to underline that these really are your convictions,

You were a) in favour of b) against US military intervention in Iraq.
Posted by Pericles, Thursday, 24 March 2011 10:59:21 PM
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