What Labor are doing is totally insane.

I learnt today that is all the fossil fuels were burnt tomorrow,the world would warm by 1.5 deg C.As temps rise more evaporisation creates more clouds which reflect the sun's energy.It is a self regulating system to a large degree.

The world has not heated for 10 yrs and now is entering a cooling cycle.A whole lot of people have been sucked in,hook line and sinker.

Sometimes you wish some people weren't on your side.

The sad part is that a handful of people (Australians) think they have an impact on world climate. There are six billion who don't give a hoot so what can Australia achieve ?

Geoff Carmody, formerly a consistent promoter of taxing CO2 emissions, has sobered somewhat by stating that doing nothing is preferable to another CPRS, whatever the odds of a global deal.

One can only hope that he comes to realise eventually that, in the absence of any scientific evidence that anthropogenic CO2 emissions are a cause of dangerous global warming, doing nothing is the preferred option -- full stop

I have to take issue with all the posters here! In fact the politicians will factor this tax to get more then they give and so will all industry! They will laugh at all us mugs who HAVE to pay it whilst greenies and other politicians invent a way so they do not pay anything.
Lets tax firewood and see how Christine Milne (Truck-load of firewood to her house no worries) likes it? I bet there would soon be an exemption sought despite her earning twice the national wage as soon as she leaves Parliament. We have to wait till 65 for the pension we paid for and she gets hers as soon as she leaves Parliament that we paid for also!
Roll on the first hiccup and a new election and then see what people think then.

cumagin intersting you blindly rebut only methane
[wait till they facter in the 40,000 leakey coal gas wells now being drilled in qld alone

plus the extra coal as coal exports continue their increase
the index claims to update yearly..yet stops at 2009

it notes nitrouse oxide as increasing
you conveniantly ommit this as well

rebuting one gas cant rebut all of them

''Of the five long-lived greenhouse gases that contribute 96% to radiative climate forcing, CO2 and N2O are the only ones that continue to increase at a regular rate.

Radiative forcing from CH4 increased from 2007 to 2009 after remaining nearly constant from 1999 to 2006.

the radiative forcing of the long-lived, well-mixed greenhouse gases increased 27.5% from 1990 to 2009 (~0.60 watts m-2),

''CO2 has accounted for nearly 80% of this""..[27 percent]..""increase (~0.47 watts m-2).''

BUT THE OTHER ARE RISING TOO

''''The five major greenhouse gases account for about 96% of the direct radiative forcing by long-lived greenhouse gas increases since 1750.''

The remaining 4% is contributed
by the 15 minor halogenated gases.

these have MORE than TRIPPLED
0.031 to 0.103

cfc11 has near doubled
cfc12 0.092 to 0.170
n20 0.099 to 0.173
ch4 0.410 to 0.502

so it all depends on who is spinning it
c02 sure AINT NO HOCKEY STICK

""Figure 4 shows radiative forcing
for the major gases and a set of 15 minor long-lived halogenated gases (CFC-113, CCl4, CH3CCl3, HCFCs 22, 141b and 142b, HFCs 134a, 152a, 23, 143a, and 125, SF6, and halons 1211, 1301 and 2402).

Except for the HFCs and SF6, which do not contain chlorine or bromine, these gases are also *ozone-depleting gases""

remember when..we were told the ozone hole
was going to create warming
and we got cooling...LOL

The NOAA Annual Greenhouse Gas Index (AGGI),
is still run by science types..
that are good ..at SPIN

and what govt ever saw
a new tax it didnt LOVE?

what special intrest
dont love easy GOVT CASH?