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Parliament should wield the war power : Comments

By Sukrit Sabhlok, published 10/2/2011

Fewer wars would be better for all, and there would be fewer wars if Parliament had the war power rather than the executive.

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Most wars are contrived by the elites for power and profit.There is one way to stop wars.All son's of pollies ,arms mauufactureres and those who have shares in weaponery,go to the front lines with the guns they helped create.
Posted by Arjay, Thursday, 10 February 2011 8:26:56 AM
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A better way would merely to require a referendum passed by a majority of Australian voters MUST occur before a government is allowed to go to war- with the only exception being an attack on our shores by a government/military operative.
Posted by King Hazza, Thursday, 10 February 2011 8:44:54 AM
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The United States Constitution gives Congress not the president the power to declare war. That provision hasn't stopped the United States from making war. It merely ensures they are not declared. In the case of Australia there is not a separation of powers between the executive and the legislative branches of government. The prime minister is a member of parliament. Giving the parliament the power to make war would do little or nothing to prevent war.
Posted by david f, Thursday, 10 February 2011 8:57:56 AM
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About 1974, A map of the middle East appeared in our newspapers, showing oil wells in Iraq put there by the US, and oil wells in Afghanistan, put there by Russia. A note with this map read “US Congress has provisional plans to take over the middle east oil fields if there is any further reduction of supply”. I do not know what the oil wells had to do with the US Congress.
Jan 11th 2004. O'Neill tells '60 Minutes' Iraq was ' Topic A' 8 Months Before 9-11.
According to documents provided by former US Treasury Secretary Paul O'Neill, George W. Bush, 10 days after taking office in 2001, instructed his aides to look for a way to overthrow the Iraqi regime. A secret memo entitled “Plan for post-Saddam Iraq” was discussed in January and February 2001, and a Pentagon document dated March 5, 2001, and entitled “Foreign Suitors for Iraq Oilfield contracts”, included a map of potential areas for petroleum exploration.[84]The US congress supplied weapons to Afghan forces to take over the Middle East Oilfields, and this was the precedence to the attack on the Twin Trade Towers and the White house. Lookup “Bush sought “way to invade Iraq”, 60 Minutes on the internet.

George Bush convinced John Howard and party (I believe this was in contravention of the Liberal Party constitution clause 44 (1)), Tony Blair and Party and members of other countries, to join in an attack in retaliation.
By this year, there are about 4,500 US army troops killed and about 30,000 wounded, maybe about 5 or 10 thousand other troops killed and civilians and 21 of our own, plus the wounded. It should make you think, shouldn't it!
What did the Middle East oil fields have to do with US congress? Maybe the morning news 31, july or 1st August, 2010, said why, commenting that George Bush, Condoleezza Rice, Dick Cheney and I think Donald Rumsfeld were part of the oil consortium.
Posted by merv09, Thursday, 10 February 2011 9:47:12 AM
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Politicians are employees of the people, they are not our bosses, they do not have the right to engage our country in war, if they want to go to war themselves, I wont stop them, it would be a just reward for the affects of their previous destruction of our economy and the livelihood of our workers. I believe that originally, they (political parties) have made the rules of our constitution for themselves, so that they can make rules to suit just themselves and those to whom they wish to prostrate themselves. It is unfortunately also true that a number of people prostitute themselves over allegiance to their country and our country, this is noticeable in the senate, where the senators are supposed to ensure that their state or territory is not disadvantaged by the decisions of the rules of the parliament not the protection of their party.
Posted by merv09, Thursday, 10 February 2011 10:03:49 AM
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only two changes to the defence act required. Amend 51 AA (1) by replacing current with the following (1) subsection (2) applies if the authorising Ministers are satisfied and the Parliament has resolved that.......
and amend (10) to include (or Parliament) after the authorising Ministers. in dealing with revocation of orders for overseas service. its very simple.
This mean executive and Parliament must formally agree for the overseas service of any Australian Defence Forces personnel, we do not have to have the semantic argument over what is a war etc and the parliament or the executive has the equal power to recall the troops.
Posted by slasher, Thursday, 10 February 2011 11:08:19 AM
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