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Is ex-Premier David Bartlett the father of the future? : Comments

By Kristin Natalier, published 8/2/2011

Bartlett’s decision is a reminder of the possibilities of fathering but not a trigger for real change in the family-work nexus in politics and elsewhere.

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vanna
There is shared-parenting now. A mother cannot refuse access to children unless there is a restraining order or supervised access due to previous violence/sexual abuse.

There are some fathers who don't want to see too much of their children. A friend of mine got no child support, raised her kids very much on her own, not because she did not allow access, but because he was too busy establishing his new business (hiding money) and supporting a new girlfriend half his age.

Despite your attitude, men are not saints and women are not demons as you would make the world. This is the same attitude as the extremist feminist who believe that all men are B*stards. Can you see the similarity.

Change won't happen unless men and women work together. I hope for your own peace of mind you come to see that yourself.
Posted by pelican, Friday, 11 February 2011 8:22:58 AM
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With regard to the statistic of 74% of non resident fathers wanting greater access to their children, I wouldn't want to make a generalisation, but know that in my own personal circumstances that my Ex tells just about everyone he meets how much he loves his kids, loves spending time with them and wishes that he could spend more time with them.

Unfortunately for the kids, he has never requested more than every other weekend, and when asked if he wants more time he refuses.

It just makes me take that particular statistic with a grain of salt. As much as I'm sure it is true for many fathers, there are also many whose own ego will not allow them to answer that question truthfully.
Posted by Tamra, Friday, 11 February 2011 8:56:06 AM
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Pelican

Disregarding divorce and fatherless children (that mysteriously coincide), how do you account for these little hicups on the road to motherhood perfection in our feminist society.

-Australia now has one of the lowest rates of breastfeeding in the world.
- Australians have increasing rates of obesity, which is now directly linked to the type of food being fed to children.
- Australia now has one of the highest rates of youth suicide, which mainly concerns boys, but girls have increasing rates of binge drinking and smoking.
- The number of disadvantaged children seems to be increasing, and the Smith family organisation estimates the number of disadvantaged children in Australia at over 600,000 (when only 200,000 children are born each year).
- Children are now leaving the primary and secondary school systems, hardly knowing maths or science, and in some cases, hardly able to read or write English.

Families have been run more by mothers than by fathers in the past 20-30 years, and the results have been disasterous.
Posted by vanna, Friday, 11 February 2011 5:16:44 PM
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Vanna, you seem to be repeating yourself.
Haven't you already blessed us with this post?

Where are your stats?

You are probably right about the breastfeeding though, many fathers don't like 'their' women breastfeeding.
There is a mistaken rumour out there that women end up with saggy breasts if they breastfeed, and men don't like that apparently.
Posted by suzeonline, Friday, 11 February 2011 11:15:17 PM
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Suxanonline,
Very typical.

If a woman doesn’t breastfeed, its because of fathers.

Complete rubbish, but in our feminist society, males are always to blame, or, if a woman does something wrong, its because a man has made her do it wrong.

In our feminist society, men have very little influence over what women do.

The propaganda that women are the “careers” has meant that motherhood is not investigated or checked, but when the statistics are looked at, motherhood is in an abysmal mess.
Posted by vanna, Saturday, 12 February 2011 4:59:24 AM
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Vanna<"Complete rubbish, but in our feminist society, males are always to blame, or, if a woman does something wrong, its because a man has made her do it wrong."

Lol Vanna, that's the pot calling the kettle black isn't it?

In our patriarchal society, females are always to blame, or, if a man does something wrong, it's because a female has made him do it wrong.

Have you, or have you not, just blamed females for absolutely every problem in our society?

I am amazed you haven't yet blamed females for global warming.
Or have you
Posted by suzeonline, Saturday, 12 February 2011 7:08:57 PM
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