That's nonsense AlGore

Few Hazaras in Iraq

Try Afghanistan

I think Al’s post should read Afghanistan rather than Iraq –but the rest of his post is essentially correct.

The Shiites and Sunnis have fought each other for centuries and neither side can be said to have always been poor (blameless) buggers – even in the most recent civil wars.

The Hazaras are to found largely in Afghanistan , Pakistan and Iran –and one needs to remember that Iran markets itself as the mother and protector of all Shiites.It supplied Afghani Shiite militias with weapons and sanctuary during the various civil wars.

One needs to be very, very cautious about what people tell you when they are seeking residency. They often present as super nice (and for good reason) but when they obtain what they want they may turn out to be very unnice indeed.
http://tinyurl.com/2dkgsvx

And then, no matter how unnice they get, we're stuck with them.

SPQR,

But weren't those guys Sunni ? Wahhabism and support for a world-wide Caliphate, by conversion or sword, are more likely to be Sunni-oriented ?

Joe

Joe
Lest you think Shiites would NOT do such nasty things –here’s some bedtime reading. Note well their activates are not limited to the Levant.

http://www.terrorism-info.org.il/malam_multimedia//ENGLISH/IRAN/PDF/july_03.PDF

SPQR,

Point taken, but given that there would be a very broad spectrum of opinion, belief, devoutness and fanaticism across Shi'ite Islam, just as with any other religious or fantasist movement, there may be some distance between Hezbollah in Lebanon and the forms of belief and worship of Hazara in Afghanistan, wouldn't you agree ?

When Hazara men OR women are involved in ANY act of violence or terrorism against other people anywhere in the world, please let us know :)

Joe

Well Joe, here’s one :
http://www.pashtuns.freeservers.com/custom.html

As I said: The Shiites and Sunnis have fought each other for centuries and neither side can be said to have always been poor (blameless) buggers – even in the most recent civil wars.

And the next two links two show how closely Hazara groups worked with/for Iran :

“Along with "Ustad" Abdul Ali Mazari and Karim Khalili, he was one of the founders of the Hizb-e-Wahdat Islami Afghanistan, the main Hazara Shi'ite mujahideen group, which was supported by Iran in the Afghan jihad of the 1980s against the Soviet Union.”
http://www.atimes.com/atimes/South_Asia/IK08Df02.html

“There were four factions headquartered in Iran. They were smaller, less well-supplied, primarily Shia and their strength was in the Hazara-section of Afghanistan (the Hazarajat). They were:
 Revolutionary Council of the Islamic Union of Afghanistan-Shura-i Inqilab-i Ittifagh-i Islami-i Afghanistan was a traditionalist Shia party led by Sayyad Beheshti. It recruited among the Hazara peasants and social elite. Many defecting Afghan Army officers led its ranks. It had wide support in the Hazarajat and Ghazni Province.
--The Islamic Victory Organization of Afghanistan - Sazman-i Nasr-i Islami-yi Afghanistan was a radical Islamist party led by a council that recruited from young Hazara who were educated in Iran. This pro-Iran party was headquartered in Daykundi.
--Islamic Movement (HI) -- Harakat-i-Islami was founded by Ayatollah Asef Muhsini in Iran as a Shia faction. The party has a traditional Islamic orientation. It recruited educated Shia from all ethnic groups. Its most famous commander was Mohammad Anwari who fought in the Turkmen valley west of Kabul.
--Army of the Guardians of the Revolution -- Sepah-i Pasdaran was a radical Islamist party led by Akbari and Saddiqi. It had very close ties with the Iranian government. It had few fighters but drew from clerics who were disaffected with Behesti’s Shura. “
http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/world/para/mujahideen.ht