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Open borders is the answer to illegal immigration : Comments

By David McMullen, published 21/1/2011

To counter illegal immigration make it legal. Open Australia's doors.

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Absolutely NO to big Australia and open borders.

If you want to help the impoverished third world then supply them with free contraception and family planning services followed by development aid.

But do not help them by bringing them all here and wrecking this country for our children and grandchildren.

People like David are a clear and present danger to this ecologically sensitive continent and egalitarian society.

Australians, do not allow them to gain the upper political hand.

Do not vote for the Greens. They have been subverted by the humanitarian lobby and no longer primarily stand for the environment. The Australian Greens used to have a well defined population policy, but that was dumped when the humanitarian lobby gained ascendancy in the party.
Posted by Mr Windy, Wednesday, 26 January 2011 5:55:13 PM
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Mr Windy, I think you'll find that the Greens are basically anti-growth. You're closer to their position than you'd like to admit. They are very reactionary.
Posted by byork, Wednesday, 26 January 2011 6:07:41 PM
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Cornflower:

I appears that there is no hope for this country of ours as we will always find reasons for why we shouldn't do or try anything new.
There will always be a good excuse for inaction.That's why sayings like, "She'll be right mate," "If it ain't broke, don't fix it," "We've always done it that way," or "Wait until somebody else does it first," are so popular.
Many great inventions by Australians were ignored in this country and have as a result been developed overseas with Australians buying them
back from foreign countries. Of course, the option of trying something
different often involves taking some considerable risks - but almost every human advance is based on experiment, innovation and adventure.
Posted by Lexi, Wednesday, 26 January 2011 6:09:04 PM
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Fine by me Lexi.......as long as the risk is with biotechnology or engineering or renewable energy that can be exported to the world or given to the third world.

But not if the risk is ecological in nature in a futile attempt to save the third world by bringing them all to Australia.
Posted by Mr Windy, Wednesday, 26 January 2011 6:16:48 PM
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but almost every human advance is based on experiment, innovation and adventure.
Lexi,
I wonder if the Nazis, the present religious fanatics et al shared this philosophy ? Ah, not to forget the A-bomb & satellite warfare & bilogical wars. People are so clever to invent these things but too damn stupid to see what they can be used for..
When experiments have a good outcome all is ok but when experiments don't work out ?
Who is to say that all progress is actually good in future ? just look at cars. They're great but they also cause a lot of the pollution every idealist whines about. Look at TV. there ain't a better medium for spreading information but alas, it's only used for annoying saturation sport & bad news & advertising. What's the last decent childrens' program you can think of ? Flipper ? Well, that was 50 years ago.
To experiment with letting non-thinkers live alongside infidels is not just asking for trouble, it is just plain idiotic.
Posted by individual, Wednesday, 26 January 2011 7:46:06 PM
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Absolutely lame, pathetic woeful and disingenous article- complete with a retarded poem/verse to substantiate the 'i have no argument so I will distract you with this' policy instead by our dear David McMullen.
In short, he subsribes to the school of 'if the superficial figures are good, and someone can make money out of something, then SOCIETY benefits!' line of low-grade thinking.
Anyway, Australia as a capitalist society with elements of social welfare, and more importantly, as a democracy with a secular moderate majority, ensuring that we retain the right to restrict access to our country and its resources to other secular moderates who would not pose a drain, and also to keep our population density DOWN, is more in most of our interests.
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Pericles: Your stance of the need for national citizens to expand to global citizens must happen at a pace between increasingly compatible (and more civilized) nations, as opposed to a profound jump; as it currently is, most nations and people around the world are backward, unstable, and religious to the extreme- hence why I find allowing them access is a recipe for disaster.

Hence movements like the EU where the union expands one-country at a time towards similar states that make efforts to equalize their social and political settings before merging (or allowing a Visa)- at the discretion of existing members- to ensure the expansion of freedom of movement is among properly consistent states.

I predict the move will not work in the Asia Pacific for a while more due to the unfortunate fact that each country (including our own) creates many potential weak-links in each other through open immigration (most mainland Asian states still have too great an economic gap with too many impoverished areas to put a lot of pressure on Australia- but more importantly, too easily accessed by migrants from fundamentalist countries and foreign mafia networks)- meanwhile, most Asian countries would consider Australia to a liability due us having thin drug and smuggling laws, and a potentially large quantity of dangerous people with a high record of assault-murder due to alcohol abuse.
Posted by King Hazza, Thursday, 27 January 2011 9:02:47 AM
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