Understanding that computers can not yet generate a collection of truly random numbers, (without guidance from a programmer such as one that tells the PC to analyse noise from a vacuum tube)is a relevant example of the problem with the argument that complexities are more complicated than simplicities.

Mr Pollard's argument contains so much emotive language and other academic fallicies, that the article does not deliver enough credibility to warrant the introduction of religious education into the Australian public school system. Perhaps, the Board of Education might like to consider introducing philosophy into classroom activities as a more neutral alternative.
Regards, Malibu

If one studies the laws of physics, chemistry, mathematics and biology at school and university; one can gain a degree of BSc. One is then fitted to gain employment in some field trying to improve the world by developing new medicines or new machines.

If one studies Intelligent Design and gains a BId, one is then fitted – for what?

Jeshua says

"Evolution is just a theory and somehow it fits in with the scientific approach which is based also on physical evidence"

This is true. All scientific positions are simply theories... from Newtons theory of gravity, to those describing electromagnetism.

Scientists are ready to discard or modify theories and are doing that all the time. The refinement and improvement of theories is a key motivation and core philosophy.

Quite simply. ID is not the currently accepted theory in scientific circles. So... it should not be taught in a junior science class.

It can be raised in other forums of course.

ID is a sham - read the Wedge Strategy - just google it up and up it pops; a manifesto penned by the proponents of ID with the specific gaol to ... "replace materiaistic explanations with the theistic understanding that nature and human beings are created by god" and to have ID .." as the dominant perspective in science".

ID is not science it's a trojan horse bearing articles of faith - nothing more.

The movement dressed up as the Discovery Institute is partly bank rolled by H F Ahmanson linked to a Christian movement ( Christian Reconstructionism)keen to replace democracy with a fundamentalist theocracy - they stress the re establishment of Old Testament Law.

They are dominionists with design to create here on earth a society defined and controlled by Christians. Check out their web site - type in Chalcedon and that will call it up - and be afraid. These guys are terrorists of the mind.

ID and its proponents need to be called for what they are -deceivers; their notions have no place in the scheme of learning. TO have it seriously entertained is as frightening and as threatening as any other form of fundamentalism

Theye should be capured and made listen to talk back radio until they recant

Pete,

You certainly have your views dont you!

If you can tell me that you can prove either theory great, until you do, dont take shots.

Creation is as valid as darwinism, unless you feel that we as humans are nothing more than animals.

There is too much grey in this for it to be black and white. I bet according to you when you are dead you are dead, right? Prove the theory of darwinism....with all the technology at our fingertips we cannot, yet it should be fairly simple to do so.

We have quanitfiable, measurable means science wise, so why cannot darwinists prove it?

Darwin is nothing more than bloke with an explanation for things based on premise. Go down the local pub if you want to believe theories, there are plenty out there.

Lets all wait until we know, the number one rule in life is not to make assumptions

Those who believe, that is really believe in evolution have far, far more faith than any believer in creation.
Any part of our bodies and how it/they work is stunning and is designed.
Take sex, once according to some we simply divided. This apparently worked well so why the change? Then it was the laying of eggs, if this worked etc. Now we have sex as we know it among humans. Can you image first a male.A fully male whatever would have to be formed by mindless directionless evolution. Then this male would have to meet a fully formed functional female. Of course everything would have to work to the utmost degree. It did and a child was born - at what odds? Then it was found that breasts had not evolved so the child died and all subsequent children of course. Then the parents fell of the perch and we had to wait another 100,000,000 years for another complete fully developed working male and female to be formed. Then hope that somehow this mindless directionless stupid evolution remembered to form breasts. It did - whacko so humans prosperred. That so-called intelligent people believe this pig's swill and garbage is unbelievable. I bet these same "brains" were sucked in re the 'Piltdown Man' [I think I got the name right] many years ago.
Much easier, much more intelligent and takes far less faith to believe we were all created. numbat