I do not believe the question is whether we believe in religion or not. The question is should be “Is the present scripture classes worthwhile and is this the best way for the churches to spread their message among children?” I would be surprised if such an adhoc classes held for 30 minutes each week by people who experience and knowledge is unknown really teach the children much. I believe the responsibility to pass on this knowledge belongs with the parents and their church. I ask once again, how many readers on this site can recall their own experiences of the scripture classes they attended. How many of you investigate what your children are being taught at these classes?

GlenC

Runner, I will dream on. I dream that soon we will free little children from the mental and emotional abuse of having strange adults tell them that they must believe dubious religious propositions or go to hell; that they will be taught about all the different and conflicting god-stories that some adults believe; that they will be told honestly about all the good and bad things that religions have been responsible for; and that they will grow up knowing it is up to them to pick their own god-story or reject the lot. Will you share that dream with me?

GlenC I will dream on. I dream that soon we will free little children from the mental and emotional abuse of having strange adults tell them that they are a result of chance and as such really have little purpose. I dream that kids will be taught about the source of love and the consequences that we see daily at a much increased rate since His ways have been ignored. I dream where kids don't accept that they have to dress like whores at 12, don't have to take drugs, don't have to be brainwashed into 'just wear a condom' If you have not seen the increase in mental health directly due to the rejection of godly morality than you are naive and blind. Why do you think some very secular principals are begging to have chaplains. They know the secular system has been and is a total failure. The dream is fantasy because what you want achieved is impossible without God as shown in Russia, China and numerous other godless regimes.

Runner, I am not saying children should not be taught. I am saying that the school is a very poor place to do it. There are too many different religions and sects for this to be of any values. The responsibility is with the parents and church to fulfill this role.

""the mental and emotional abuse of [children] having strange adults tell them that they are a result of chance and as such really have little purpose.

"I dream that kids will be taught about the source of love ""

Posted by runner, Friday, 17 December 2010 10:19:14 AM

The vast majority of kids are the result of planning by loving parents, not chance, and are brought into loving extended families who see their purpose as raising the child to cope with the world outside the family.

To talk about chance the way you do is argument to the absurd
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""responsibility is with the parents and church to fulfill this role.""
Posted by Flo, Friday, 17 December 2010 10:26:58 AM

Some parents and some churches should not have that responsibility.

Flo you write
'Runner, I am not saying children should not be taught. I am saying that the school is a very poor place to do it. There are too many different religions and sects for this to be of any values. The responsibility is with the parents and church to fulfill this role.'

Fine well stop teaching kids the adult fairytale of the big bang, sex education without morals and bring back some proper discipline. It is akin to child abuse to allow secularist to impose their lack of morals on children 6 hours a day.

Runner are you saying that only the church is capable of teaching morals and discipline. They must be miracle workers if they achieve this in 30 minutes a week with not all children attending. You insult the great number of people who manage to live a moral and worthwhile lives without religion in their life.