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The arrest of Julian Assange - a reality check : Comments

By Marian Dalton, published 9/12/2010

Why would anyone believe that the Swedish charges against Julian Assange are part of an international conspiracy?

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James,

Thanks for those insights: Stalin's trials all staged yada yada, ergo ..... All trials are corrupted ? No trial at all is better than a trial ? No judgment can be considered free and fair, anywhere ? Down with trials ! Demand trial-free regimes NOW !

As I tried to explain in what I thought were simple enough words, 'be alert to all the possibilities .... on both sides .... of misinformation.'

Hmmmmm .... I wonder who put you up to writing that .... and who is behind THEM ? And how do the Swedes and Chinese and Scientologists fit into it all ? Or those so-called bloody 'Jehovah's Witnesses'. Just evangelists ? Yeah, right.

So who is that Amway lady REALLY working for ?

Is that egg-shell I am about to step on, really an egg-shell or a cleverly-disguised cluster bomb ? Who planted it, I wonder ?

And if I step into that room, how do I know it hasn't been booby-trapped with poison gas ? You don't know what the Swedes might get up to .... or whoever is behind them, pulling their strings .... and who tells THEM what to do, hmmmmm ?

Welcome to ArjayWorld, James.

Joe
Posted by Loudmouth, Monday, 13 December 2010 1:56:58 PM
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Joe, you are funny. ;0
Posted by JamesH, Monday, 13 December 2010 3:52:41 PM
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The person that screen printed the image of Mr Assange on the wall of the Swedish Church ( image appearing in The Ages continuing saga on Wikileaks and the whereabouts of Mr Assange) was probably protesting against the extradition hearings taking place in London right now. The Swedish Government represented by the public prosecutor has issued an extradition order for Mr Assange to be trialled in Sweden for matters that are not related to the now world famous Wikileaks files. How this can be miconstrued as an attack on wikileaks is hard to see. In this instance it seems Julian Assange and his behavior is second to the Julain Assange as the face of wikileaks.
Moreover in defacing the walls of the Swedish Church the person is mistaken in his or her belief that the Swedish Church is somehow connected to the Swedish Government. The Church of Sweden officially separated from the State in 2000.
Among the members of our congregation in Melbourne many are Australians that have got an affinity with Sweden through their heritage or through visits or cultural ties with Sweden and Scandinavia.
We are a non-political charitable organisation and have to pay ourselves for cleaning the wall. The money spent on cleaning up the wall could have been better spent on our outreach work.
It is unfortunate that we are seen as a proxy for the Government of Sweden. I hope this post will clear up any misconceptions on the status of the Swedish Church that Wikileaks supporters in Melbourne have.

Roger Kalla Chairman of the Swedish Church in Melbourne
Posted by sten, Monday, 13 December 2010 5:25:44 PM
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The article author, posting under the OLO userID of 'The Conscience Vote' on Thursday, 9 December 2010 at 2:01:55 PM, says, I think in relation to an earlier post by me:

"2. Re: the two women being Wikileaks volunteers.
This is hardly a smoking gun, nor does it lend weight
to the idea that these allegations form a conspiracy.
It is possible, but cannot be construed as proof without
corroborating evidence. It is equally likely they joined
Wikileaks out of admiration for the organisation's work,
and met Mr Assange socially through this."

Agreed.

However, Geoff of Perth's post of Thursday, 9 December 2010 at 4:46:08 PM, as can be seen from my subsequent posts of Friday, 10 December 2010 at 8:23:06 AM and Friday, 10 December 2010 at 8:25:03 AM, caught my attention.

As it happens, I have 'followed' Brian Howes on Twitter since before then-Deputy-PM Julia Gillard published what turned out to be the vanguard OLO Topic of the Month for October 2009, 'Personal Epiphanies' article, 'Driven by indignation at injustice' (See: http://www.onlineopinion.com.au/view.asp?article=9513 and http://bit.ly/gRHgyy ) on 5 October 2009. It is serendipitous that this December's Featured Topic, 'Blowing the whistle', has found such internationally topical focus in Wikileaks.

Unsurprisingly, facing extradition from the UK to the US himself, Brian Howes has maintained an active interest in the attempt to extradite Julian Assange from the UK to Sweden. One of Howes' tweets (now missing?) contained a link to a tweet purporting to be by one of the two alleged complainants in the Swedish sexual improprieties matter for which Assange's extradition is sought, in which she referred to herself as having some claimed involvement with the CIA.

I obviously have no way of knowing whether the tweet I viewed was really made by one of the persons in question, nor, if it was, that the claim of being in some way a CIA operative was in any way true. However, it was out there, in the public domain, and I saw it.

Corroborating evidence for thinking conspiracy?
Posted by Forrest Gumpp, Tuesday, 14 December 2010 2:07:21 PM
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The following is a link to the timeline of Julian Assange's visit to Sweden and the events that followed.

http://www.crikey.com.au/2010/12/13/rundle-timeline-of-assanges-visit-to-sweden-and-events-that-followed/
Posted by Poirot, Tuesday, 14 December 2010 3:34:10 PM
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Ever notice how in the news spies and sex seem to be interlinked. I know Julian isn't a spy, but he did published leaked information.

Maybe the media likes these kind things, to bring some excitment to the lives of boring people.
Posted by JamesH, Wednesday, 15 December 2010 12:19:11 AM
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