"Bigot: A person who is intolerant of any ideas other than his own,
especially on religion, politics or race."
- Collins English Dictionary

You appear to be the one who is intolerant of my ideas
so what does that make you?

I don't believe I have expressed intolerance of your ideas,
certainly not to the degree that you have toward mine,
so who is the greater bigot?

I have no issue per se with anyone's religion, politics or race
but I nevertheless feel free to criticise those that I don't agree with.

You would apparently deny me that freedom
so what does that make you?

Islam is a retarded and violent ideology and it should be exposed for what it is.
Buddhism, Sikhism, Confucianism, Lutheranism, Calvinism, Catholicism, etc
may also be considered retarded by some but I do not feel the necessity to comment on them
as they do not represent the threat to our society that Islam patently does.

To declare that somebody who rejects one specific ideology on the basis of its
daily demonstrated danger is a bigot is a misuse of the term.

ie
I reject Islam and its followers on the reasonable basis of a
widely demonstrated and thoroughly documented threat.
I do not reject other religions whose followers do not represent a threat.

Therefore it cannot be said that I am intolerant of anybodies religious beliefs which differ from my own.
Particularly as I have none.

For the above reasons I agree with the author when he states that we should:

•Discourage development of enclaves of (Islamic) communities that remain insular and tend to resist integration.
•Ensure that immigrants are (not) composed of (Islamic) groups that are largely incompatible with Australian norms...
•Establish bona-fides and background of all immigrants to eliminate those with ... (Islamic) views which ... pose a threat to law and order

So you don't have anything to say about
population policy, Proxy, other than to
rant on about keeping "Mohammeddans" out?

I thought not.

I'll let others form their own ideas about
who's promoting bigotry in this discussion.

Talisman....we already 'get' that you don't have an ounce of argument... which is clearly why you just attack people rather than arguments.

Stonewalling and denial are not a good look, and they do absolutely nothing for your oops.... I almost said "argument"..but then...you don't have one do you?

Let's explore 'intolerance' and see if YOU pass the test.

IS THIS..."intolerance" or....not?

But when the forbidden months are past, then fight and SLAY the Pagans wherever ye find them, an seize them, beleaguer them, and lie in wait for them in every stratagem (of war); but if they repent, and establish regular prayers and practise regular charity, then open the way for them: for Allah is Oft-forgiving, Most Merciful. Surah 9:5

How about this?

Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and His Apostle, nor acknowledge the religion of Truth, (even if they are) of the People of the Book, until they pay the Jizya with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued. surah 9:29

or this:

The Jews call 'Uzair a son of Allah, and the Christians call Christ the son of Allah. That is a saying from their mouth; (in this) they but imitate what the unbelievers of old used to say. Allah's curse be on them: how they are deluded away from the Truth!

If it IS "intolerance and bigotry" and it is also "ideologically based in dogma" then it follows by all standard of logic and reason, even at a level a prep school child can understand...."allowing such intolerance and bigotry and racism into Australia would contribute to an intolerant, racist and bigoted society"

Thus.. we must be INtolerant of such ideas and racism and bigotry to ensure we have a tolerant, inclusive and respectful civil and social discourse.

I doubt you will even seek to understand the quotes, bigots seldom try, and you have manifestly demonstrated 'bigotry' on repeated occasions. But I do predict one thing......your response "Oh Oh...u Islamophobe" at which point, I just roll my eyes.

By the way Talisman, re "population"...that's one of the prime reasons to fairly discriminate against Muslims coming to Australia. Their faith recognizes and permits (to this day) polygamy and up to 4 wives.

Seems reasonable to me that if you have 4 wives, you will have LOTS of children and unfairly contribute to over population.

Of course...a lot would need to come here before they can control the outcome of marginal electorates and gain the balance of power through their Green (watermelon) sponsors.

Graham, having put your foot down firmly elsewhere about wandering off topic, how about a stern warning to those who consistently and wilfully divert each and every thread onto a "discussion" on the evils of Islam?

Just a thought.

I agree with Pericles, even though I'm one of the wanderers. It's fair to point out that the original article mentions certain groups which don't fit the desirable immigrant profile, mostly in reference to Muslims. I'd also point out that I have posted at least once on the reasons why Australia as a country and as a continent can't carry 35-50 million people, but there was little direct response.

Population debates always devolve into an argument over race (and now pseudo race, Muslims), which is probably why this country has had so few debates on the topic, and why it remains a policy-free zone.