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Hope at Cancun: the silent momentum : Comments

By Tim Hall, published 6/12/2010

There is momentum to make the under-stated Cancun conference work where the over-hyped Copenhagen failed.

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Tim - which particular set of rose colored glasses are you wearing? Even if the delegates came up with a legally enforceable, stringent set of emission guidelines (Bwwwwhahahaha! Sorry, couldn't help it), there is no possibility of any of the major countries sticking to it. The US, for all its talk, is not showing any sign of making any effort on a national level. China won't do anything serious unless its given billions.

Nor was ther any hope of anything happening, and this was know by anyone who wasn't an activist long before Copenhagen. Time to give up the dream.
Posted by Curmudgeon, Monday, 6 December 2010 9:54:30 AM
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Tim, you obviously have talent in producing words.

It is a shame to see them wasted on a deservedly dead cause like this evil brain child of the UN, and its puppet the IPCC.

Fortunately, the populace have woken up. The politicizing of science gave this scheme unexpected impetus, while destroying the image of science, with the public.

Climategate finished the job on science, so despite the incredible sums of money spent, and the lies told, by the UN and IPCC, the AGW fraud is dead.

More than 50% of the voting population are now aware of the truth, and politicians, always poll driven, are falling into line.

The media appear to be prepared to allow Cancun a quiet, peaceful death, with no unseemly thrashing about
Posted by Leo Lane, Monday, 6 December 2010 10:42:03 AM
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In the words of Monty Python, "this is an ex-parrot".

Love to hear from you after the NGO gabfest, just to reveiw your enthusiasm.
Posted by spindoc, Monday, 6 December 2010 10:51:36 AM
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Could it be Tim, that the delegates "incredible push for action" you see could be more to do with them seeing the loss of their taxpayer funded annual luxury holiday looking them in the face?

This must be higher in their area of interest than global warming, or they would not be generating all that nasty CO2 flying all over the place for conferences. They would demand video conferencing to "save the world".
Posted by Hasbeen, Monday, 6 December 2010 10:53:56 AM
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COP-16 & IPCC: "LET'S PUT THE CAN IN CANT!"

Is anything more poignant than the deluded idealism of the young, especially well-meaning arts/law/'communications' eco-activists?

Tim,a momentum is indeed building, but it is loudly sceptical - not silent, especially in freezing UK and northern Europe. Snow-bound folk have had enough of moralising climate/weather astrologers apparently more determined than ever to suppress the great uncertainties in their "predictions".

COP-16 should be a moratorium on the integrity of the climate science orthodoxy, not prolonging the alarmist delusion we can control the Earth's elusive thermostat.

Note climatologist Judith Curry recent post (31 October, 2010): "The question needs to be asked as to whether the early articulation of a preferred policy option by the UNFCCC has stimulated a positive feedback loop between politics, science and science funding that has accelerated the science (and its assessment by the IPCC) towards the policy option (CO2 stabilization) that was codified by the UNFCCC...."

"The net result is an OVERCONFIDENT ASSESSMENT of the importance of greenhouse gases in future climate change, which has brought us to our current position between a rock and a hard place, where we lack the information that we need to understand climate change more broadly..." (www.judithcurry.com)

It is now clear the IPCC has been corrupted by an incestuous process, one designed to ensure the UN got its pre-determined outcome: a bogus >90% certainty declaration about "dangerous" human-induced climate change just around the corner.

Monetising (and demonising) a beneficial trace gas (CO2) may seem to you a neat way of transfering big $$$ ("climate debt") from the developed to the developing world via UN ticket-clippers, but it's not on.

Enjoy the guitars and tequilla, Tim, but the GAME IS UP south of the border, down Mexico way.

Alice (in Warmerland)
Posted by Alice Thermopolis, Monday, 6 December 2010 12:58:56 PM
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Yes.... there is HELP for Cancun..... (but they must be preeeety desperate)

UN CALLS ON PAGAN MAYAN JAGUAR GODDESS (Ixchel) FOR HELP during opening speech at CANCUN.

Christiana Figueres, executive secretary of the U.N. Framework Convention on Climate Change, invoked the ancient jaguar goddess Ixchel in her opening statement to delegates gathered in Cancun, Mexico, noting that Ixchel was not only goddess of the moon, but also “the goddess of reason, creativity and weaving. May she inspire you — because today, you are gathered in Cancun to weave together the elements of a solid response to climate change, using both reason and creativity as your tools.”

Annnnnd....*there* you have it.

Under the thin veil of 'secularism' the UN is plagued by satanism paganism and nature religions.

OOOOhhhhh how the secular media MOCKED a (colorful) Christian who said he was not afraid of Global warming because God promised in Genesis never to flood the earth again.

But will the mock Christiana Figueres and the UN? :) I doubt it.

For those who would like to know what IXCHEL looks like.. see this:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ixchel

It's all a bit 'icky' to me.
Posted by ALGOREisRICH, Tuesday, 7 December 2010 9:00:39 AM
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