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These biased studies of questionable academic merit, along with false and outdated statistics, then become the basis of the way legislature, the judiciary and law enforcement approach domestic violence, to the point where the law is so biased that it becomes yet another weapon that abusive women can use against their victims. Is it any wonder that to quote just one example, one study done in 2006 found that in South Australia, while 22% of all female victims reported their abuse, only 7.5% of male victims reported their abuse.

As for your claims about the amount of damage done- the vast majority of studies done which have investigated female abusers have consistently found that they strike at moments of opportunity and most often wielding a weapon.

A blade requires less than a pound of pressure to puncture flesh, fuel when lit does not differentiate between genders, while flying projectiles and blunt objects will make up for any kind of natural strength differential.

Suze, you claim that noone condones child or spousal abuse, yet the reality is that society and feminist interest groups trivialise it constantly along extreme gendered lines- with male victims trapped between the stereotypes of traditionalism and the stereotypes of modern feminism.

The only people, who would ultimately lose out in a shift to society recognising that women can be just as abusive as men are currently recognised as potentially being, are abusive women. Why is that a problem?

Bowspearer, I believe I did say that women commit domestic violence didn't I?
Now remember, this thread is about DOMESTIC VIOLENCE. It is not about child sexual abuse. Nor is it about child neglect... about which I am aware that women are just as likely as men to neglect their children (if not more likely to).

As a nurse working in both hospitals and community health for 30 years, there is nothing you can tell me about domestic violence that I don't already know, and have had to deal with in my workplace, many times.

There are NOT a majority of male patients fronting up to emergency departments, having had the hell bashed out of them by a female relation.

Most of the male, child and female FAMILY domestic violence victims have been bashed, kicked and/or thrashed by male relatives... no doubt about that at all. Note I am also mentioning male-on-male domestic violence.

I have no doubt that most female domestic violence victims have tried to defend themselves by 'surprise' attacks, or by using weapons, because they would have a snowball's chance in hell of defending themselves against most males by punching, bashing or kicking, as men tend to do.

After dealing with the injuries of women and children who have been bashed to within an inch of their lives by the men who are supposed to 'love' and 'protect' their families, you will forgive me for being a little bitter about the apparent ineffectiveness of AVO's taken out against them.

You talk about 'initiating' this violence. What can a woman or child possibly say or do to warrant a violent thrashing by their loving 'protector' male relative?
What actions by women would you say warrants a domestic violence incident?

Suzeonline, you ask "What actions by women would you say warrants a domestic violence incident?"

Answer: " a domestic violence incident already in progress and started by a woman."

Started how Roscop?

What does a 'start' constitute in the context of a domestic violence situation?

Is it when she doesn't do what she is told?
Is it when she answers back?
What if she refuses sex?
What if she lies?
What if she has an affair?
What if she threatens violence towards the man?

I have heard all of these 'reasons' used by violent men.

Do any or all of these scenario's give good reason for a man to belt the hell out of a woman, or kill her?

Is he then entitled to be jury, judge and executioner in her trial at home?

@suzeonline

I thought your experience was in "both hospitals and community health." If so, then I can't deny your anecdotal evidence.

However, when you ask "Do any or all of these scenario's give good reason for a man to ... kill her?" I wonder where your data on the deaths caused by domestic violence are coming from.

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Both @suzeonline and @Bowspearer

What is important here? Dealing only with the perpetrators of one gender or dealing with all perpetrators?

Personally, I don't see that it matters very much WHAT the proportion really is (though I have my opinions as expressed earlier) I find myself in complete agreement that
"Gender-based Approach Misses the Mark in Tackling Family Violence"

Laws drawn up for only part of society, or enacted for only part of society, will lead to social injustice. Everyone has a right to be protected, everyone has a right to redress, and everyone has a responsibility for good behaviour.

Male or female. No excuses. Only equal treatment under an equal law will achieve justice.

Suzeonline:"Is it when she doesn't do what she is told?
Is it when she answers back?"

No, but it is when she screams abuse and throws things

"What if she refuses sex?"

No problem there, although, let's face it, if she's been apparently enjoying herself then suddenly goes cold, she's going to have a bloke with painful balls to deal with. Is her action in giving him blue balls volent? Having had a bad case at one stage, I can assure you it's quite painful.

"What if she lies?"

Oh, I'd not hit a woman for lying, it's a normal part of female behaviour from what I've seen.

"What if she has an affair?"

What if he does? Does it entitle her to pour petrol on him while he sleeps and ignite it because "his penis belongs to me"? Or perhaps you're more a fan of the Lorena Bobbitt school of penis amputation?

"What if she threatens violence towards the man?"

Yes, what if she does? What should he do, in tour view? Turn the other cheek? Suck it up and take it like a man, or should he go to the police and endure the ridicule they'll hand him for asking for a DVO?

Douglas, you'll never get anything but genderist claptrap from the likes of Suzie and chaz. They dn't know much, but they know what they don't like and what they really don't ;ike is men