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Gay marriage - it’s all about the child : Comments

By David van Gend, published 24/11/2010

The most serious objection to gay marriage is that it means gay parenting, and gay parenting means depriving a child of either his mother or his father.

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Don't be too hard (Pun intended) on porn, dear Proxy, methinks you need some.

David
Posted by Atheist Foundation of Australia Inc, Sunday, 28 November 2010 9:49:52 AM
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Proxy,

This is very telling ins't it? http://www.philosophy-religion.org/handouts/homophobia.htm

Which category do you fit (Another pun intended)

"Researchers at the University of Georgia conducted an experiment involving 35 homophobic men and 29 nonhomophobic men as measured by the Index of Homophobia scale. All the participants selected for the study described themselves as exclusively heterosexual both in terms of sexual arousal and experience.

Each participant was exposed to sexually explicit erotic stimuli consisting of heterosexual, male homosexual and lesbian videotapes (but not necessarily in that order). Their degree of sexual arousal was measured by penile plethysmography, which precisely measures and records male tumescence.

Men in both groups were aroused by about the same degree by the video depicting heterosexual sexual behavior and by the video showing two women engaged in sexual behavior. The only significant difference in degree of arousal between the two groups occurred when they viewed the video depicting male homosexual sex: 'The homophobic men showed a significant increase in penile circumference to the male homosexual video, but the control [nonhomophobic] men did not.'"

David
Posted by Atheist Foundation of Australia Inc, Sunday, 28 November 2010 10:35:16 AM
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'Homosexuality is not genetically predetermined.'

'Homosexual behaviour is largely shaped by genetics and random environmental factors, according to findings from the world's largest study of twins': http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2008/06/080628205430.htm

Nice try at equating homosexuality with incest and paedophilia, too. Typical last resort of the bigot.
Posted by Clownfish, Sunday, 28 November 2010 11:14:05 AM
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Proxy,

Anyone that knows anything about research and statistics knows that anecdotal information is worth absolutely nothing, which is all the evidence that you are able to provide.

There are numerous peer reviewed studies to show that sexual orientation is pre determined from a young age, and the link Clownfish provided is just one.

Secondly the orientation is not always completely straight or completely gay, and those that have been "cured" have generally been somewhere in the middle.

Finally, this level of bigotry typically comes from two sources, either those that are religious fundamentalists, or those with repressed gay tendencies. Which category do you fall into?
Posted by Shadow Minister, Monday, 29 November 2010 10:00:59 AM
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Shadow Minister writes

'There are numerous peer reviewed studies to show that sexual orientation is pre determined from a young age, and the link Clownfish provided is just one.'

Then he/she also believes that adults with a bent towards kids had a 'pre determined bent from a young age.'

Ridiculous really but the logic is not surprising.
Posted by runner, Monday, 29 November 2010 5:56:02 PM
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runner,

"Then he/she also believes that adults with a bent towards kids had a 'pre determined bent from a young age.'"

This could be true but the difference is the harm done by the power differential. People who do harm need to be constrained.

Do you understand now or should I make the words simpler.

David
Posted by Atheist Foundation of Australia Inc, Monday, 29 November 2010 6:03:48 PM
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