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Gay marriage - it’s all about the child : Comments
By David van Gend, published 24/11/2010The most serious objection to gay marriage is that it means gay parenting, and gay parenting means depriving a child of either his mother or his father.
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Posted by Proxy, Monday, 29 November 2010 9:55:25 PM
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Well proxy, should I put up a list of links to stories about pedophile priests now?
Or heterosexual foster carers abusing kids? I'm betting I can find more than you. Posted by TrashcanMan, Monday, 29 November 2010 10:15:28 PM
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<< should I put up a list of links to stories about pedophile priests now?>>
Please do. I'll even help you. Considering that 81% of the victims were boys, the story of the "pedophile priests" takes us right back to homosexual behaviour and the threat it poses to young boys. It's all documented in this link: http://www.usccb.org/nrb/johnjaystudy/ Posted by Proxy, Monday, 29 November 2010 10:41:07 PM
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Actually, Proxy, most abusers of young boys are heterosexual - counter-intuitive as that may seem.
http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/Articles/000,002.htm : 'Regressed offenders are typically heterosexual in their adult relationships ... they date women and marry them. They often are parents, stepparents or extended family members of their victims. By all appearances — and by their own self-identification — they are straight.' http://www.fallwell.com/pedophilia.html : 'Groth and Birnbaum (1978) found that none of the 175 adult males in their sample – all of whom were convicted in Massachusetts of sexual assault against a child – had an exclusively homosexual adult sexual orientation. In one review of the scientific literature, noted authority Dr. A. Nicholas Groth wrote: “Are homosexual adults in general sexually attracted to children and are preadolescent children at greater risk of molestation from homosexual adults than from heterosexual adults? There is no reason to believe so... The research to date all points to there being no significant relationship between a homosexual lifestyle and child molestation.' http://ezinearticles.com/?Male-Sexual-Abuse-of-Boys&id=4086490 : 'Pedophiles, even if they only abuse boy children, are different from homosexuals who like to have sex with younger men. There is a profound difference between sexual abuse and gay sex - one connotes control over a child, coercion, force, exploitation and abuse, and the other connotes a sexual choice and an encounter freely entered into by two adult males.' Another bigotry falls flat in the face of the evidence. Posted by Clownfish, Tuesday, 30 November 2010 12:15:10 AM
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Proxy,
Yet again you cherry pick one bad example from years ago in another country and expect it to represent the entire gay population.How about the mother that sold her daughter into prostitution in Tas as a recent local event, along with the thousands of other children abused by their married parents? Surveys of thousands of gay parents and children show that there is no measurable difference in the stability of the children, or their ability to function in society from heterosexual married couples. Unless you can provide more than cherry pick anecdotal evidence, your breathless outrage is a thinly veiled pretext for bigotry. Posted by Shadow Minister, Tuesday, 30 November 2010 8:47:54 AM
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Proxy,
Even if your assertion was true, that the priests were gay. The high incidence of paedophilia among priests compared to other segments of society, in particular compared to homosexual couples, would imply that they are paedophiles because they are priests, not because they are gay. I don't necessarily think this is the case though. I'm just pointing out the floor in your logic and the obvious prejudice biasing your thought processes. Posted by TrashcanMan, Tuesday, 30 November 2010 10:28:00 AM
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Homosexual activists claim that a child is no better off with a mother and a father than that same child would be with two "fathers".
Do they actually believe this themselves?
If so, their sanity must be in serious question.
If not, their honesty must be in serious question.
I wonder whether the foster boys who were "fathered" by these foster "daddies" would agree with the homosexual activists on this forum?
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-480151/Gay-couple-left-free-abuse-boys--social-workers-feared-branded-homophobic.html
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/1562313/Fear-of-prejudice-let-gay-carers-abuse-boys.html