"I still don’t understand how homosexuals can look at each other's junk and think nature intended that for me."
-Roscop

And it's thoroughly beyond me how anybody with ears can enjoy ABBA. Yet millions do. It'd be a boring old world if we were all the same.

Quite extraordinary response from the homosexual lobby to a factually accurate & solid argument ... and thats the point isn't it? Someone has dared to 'blow' their facade.

When the homosexual lobby are faced with the truth of their condition/ lifestyle or whatever the PC want to call it, all they do is to rally the troops and hope that sufficient numbers can mount (?) a defence which usually tries to claim victim status and suggest a fairy (?) tail reality - that the quotes aren't representative and that Muehlenberg isn't representative.(etc etc.)

But in my experience, both Muehlenberg and his quotes do reflect the commonly understood reality that Homosexuality is an unfortunate aberrant and destructive condition, exacerbated by a lack of moral control over one's sexual faculties.

I don't want society to proceed down that destructive path and politicians should already be counting the costs of promiscuously based relationships which mostly end in divorce, distress or perhaps just another homosexual liason.

May I suggest that it is a foolish politician who does not safeguard children (within the traditional and proven family model) and likewise safeguard taxpayers' interests. Also, it ought to be recognised that the media is demonstrably partial but also demonstrably wrong when it comes to homosexuality. Voters want "marriage" protected just as we've demanded the right to have our own homes.

Chris Saidou

You need to be reminded that your above post is your opinion only - nothing you have written has any basis in fact.

Homosexuality occurs throughout the animal kingdom including we primates as well as other animals.

You then claim that children require protection - however sexual predators of children are not homosexuals they are collectively called paedophiles and consist (most significantly) of straight males (occasionally females) who have sexual desires for children of either gender (often both) and may be anyone from your next door married neighbour to people in whom we place trust such as school teachers and members of the clergy.

You are free to express your opinion regarding homosexuality on this forum, many, like Proxy, do it all the time without censure.

But remember what you are doing is reprehensible - denigration of a group of people. Also your 'opinion' encourages others to vilify and at the extreme physically harm homosexual people. People who do you no harm, often make significant contributions to our society and have as much right to live in peace as yourself.

<<People who do you no harm, often make significant contributions to our society and have as much right to live in peace as yourself.>>
You would also be describing incestuous couples then.
Why do you exclude them from the possibility of "marriage" that you claim as your "fundamental human right"?
Homosexuals would hear nothing from people such as myself if they weren't hell-bent on changing society to the detriment of our children.
Homosexuals bleat "what we do in the privacy of our own bedrooms doesn't affect you" but what they really want to do is brainwash our children into their way of thinking.
Is it because you can't have children of your own because of your own sexual choices that you want to steal the minds of our children?

Pt 1 - For Johnny Rotten ?

The truth hurts, but despite your complaint - that’s not my intention. Only a fool would trade one problem for a more violent problem. And no, I don't need “reminding …” simply because you disagree with the facts as expressed. And yes they are facts. Your misguided view that the problem is paedophilia, is not the reality. Most problems here are correctly categorised as pederasty. Its a subdivision of homosexual behaviour. That is, and despite how the media want to portray it, whilst there still is a problem with paedophiles (in fact, promiscuity across the society) that is not the predominant issue here.

In my experience, no-one wants to harm active homosexuals; they do that enough themselves. According to Homosexual Lobbyists their suicide rate is higher than that for other sections of the community. One should wonder why that’s so, if homosexuals are confident about their behaviour, why do they still require affirmation from elsewhere? My position holds that hiding the Truth will only exacerbate the homosexual problem and lead to false expectations and apparently even higher levels of suicide.

A question of credibility for homosexuals; Do you really think that partaking in homosexual practices allows for impartial objective thinking on the matter or is it more likely to reflect an addiction to the very behaviour you want accepted as normal?

JR said, "Homosexuality occurs throughout the animal kingdom including we primates as well as other animals."

(I’ll ignore your unproven PC view that we’re primates and say..) So what? Is that your only measure of morality? Because some dumb animal displays aberrant behaviour, you want to match it

Pt 2 - For Johnny Rotten ?
On that basis alone, children require protection from such thinking. But Muehlenberg is right. That sort of thinking doesn't stop there. It’s the quotes from like minded homosexuals backed by histories of promiscuous lifestyle choices which have caught the homosexual lobby out and you don't like it. The ‘cry’ once was 'what we do in private is our business' but now we can see your agenda for what it is and yes children in particular (but also the rest of society) need protection from such reprehensible behaviour and people who see nothing wrong with it and wish to inflict their lifestyle choices on us all - so they can feel good about themselves.

Your comment about censuring comments should serve to warn readers. The homosexual lobby’s desire, if it were possible, to censure any contrary opinion to what homosexuals want to do without conscience, is next on the agenda. But they won't get away with that just yet, and the truth has a way of haunting those that refuse to recognise it - even when it cannot be expressed.

JR: "But remember what you are doing is reprehensible - denigration of a group of people."

Nonsense. Reread my posts. Its the behaviour being targeted. And if homosexuals want to flaunt their aberrant choices (Mardi gras, holes in toilet block walls etc) society has every right and duty to protect our own against such destructive thinking and behaviour. Homosexuals need to recognise that behaving like animals is not normal for rational humans.

See part 1 above: It’s a cop out by the homosexual lobby to blame others instead of themselves for the consequences of their actions. Again I am not talking about any sort of violent retribution, but the obvious fact that Homosexual crave acceptance of their behaviour by others.

In the end, Muehlenberg is spot on; the homosexual lobby wants to change the laws to allow for more and more destructive behaviours. Changing the law will not solve the problem, changing the behaviour of homosexuals will