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Silver lining to the dark clouds of climate change : Comments

By Peter Cornish, published 19/11/2010

Australian farmers are learning to cope with and profit from variability

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Thanks Peter. This is a useful contribution to the climate change adaptation discussion. Australian farmers have proven themselves great innovators, and astute adopters of technology, again and again - and I'm sure can respond to the climate change challenge too.

Pasture cropping appears to me to be a logical next step along the technology development pathway from minimum tillage, offering further options for harnessing seasonal variations, while also increasing soil carbon and agro-ecosystem functional diversity. It is also pleasing to see that some of these innovative technologies are narrowing the difference in practices between so-called "conventional" and "alternative" - eg. organic production modes.
Posted by MultiMick, Friday, 19 November 2010 8:51:11 AM
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"The first sign of climate change is increasing climate variability"...

Er...what?

Doesn't this mean "If the climate changes, it changes"?

What you are actually trying to say is that you believe it will get warmer, but since you don't have any evidence of this, you will clutch at any change at all -- colder, wetter, drier, windier -- as proof that those wicked human beings are mucking up the perfect climate we had. Once upon a time. (But not during the Medieval Warm Period or the Ice Ages, of course).

Unfortunately there is no evidence that the climate is becoming more 'variable'. either, whatever that means. Hurricane levels are down, La Nina is back, and we look to be in for a long cold summer while the northern hemisphere has a long cold winter. Just as we did a decade or so ago, and again a decade or so before that.

Still, if farmers are getting more efficient and using less water, good luck to them. Does that mean they will soon be able to stop asking for more taxpayer handouts?

Sorry, silly question.
Posted by Jon J, Friday, 19 November 2010 5:05:49 PM
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*Does that mean they will soon be able to stop asking for more taxpayer handouts?*

Ah, that is a great question, Jon J. So lets level the playing
field. No hand outs to farmers, no handouts to manufacturing
industry and no handouts to unions. No more standover awards,
let the market prevail. No termination payments, when businesses
are on their knees.

Farmers do in fact compete in the global economy with about 60%
or more of their production. So the big question remains, can
the rest of Australia do the same?
Posted by Yabby, Friday, 19 November 2010 9:54:15 PM
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Jon J, only a percentage of farmers get a "handout", in a percentage of years. $4billion(which usually includes the administration costs) have flowed to farmers over the last 4 to 5 years. We have about 125000 farmers, which works out to $8000 per farmer pa during an unprecedented drought. I don't know what unemployment benefits amount to, but I'd suggest this is close to that. And a bit less than the Baby bonus costs taxpayers. I'd suggest it was as important to ensure there are farmers kept in business through hardtimes, especially if we subsidise new mouths to feed.
I doubt farmers seek "handouts", but I'm sure they are gratefully received by those qualifying in times of need.

Those that complain mysteriously tend to overlook multi billion dollar stimulus packages.
Posted by rojo, Friday, 19 November 2010 10:50:13 PM
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Less of a silver lining than a way to maintain some viability a bit longer. If the predictions of drying SE Australia, with a side order of more and more extreme weather events prove correct - and despite the noisy deniers, the science has tended to underestimate rather than overestimate the pace and extent of climate change - the longer term outlook isn't that good for Australian agriculture.

Not that this sector will fail to innovate as they try to keep going, but it's sadly ironic that this innovative sector harbors a big proportion of people who prefer to hold to the old orthodoxy that weather and climate are beyond our understanding or ability to change, who deny the validity of climate science and who resist strongly any serious policy to limit emissions.
Posted by Ken Fabos, Saturday, 20 November 2010 1:37:35 PM
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*who prefer to hold to the old orthodoxy that weather and climate are beyond our understanding or ability to change, who deny the validity of climate science and who resist strongly any serious policy to limit emissions.*

Ken, it really comes down to results. If those who claim to
understand climate, could at least predict that climate ahead
for a few months, perhaps more people would take notice.

So far, they haven't been too accurate and farmers are skeptics,
given the number of snakeoil salesmen around.

As to limiting emissions, we need more then feelgood exercises.
A place like WA is populated at a little over 2 people per square
km, our emissions really don't matter. With China and India
each building a new coal fired power station a week, whatever
we do, still won't matter. Other then make some feel good.
That is rather pointless.
Posted by Yabby, Saturday, 20 November 2010 6:26:51 PM
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