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Safety first in family law is long overdue : Comments

By Elspeth McInnes, published 16/11/2010

Proposed changes to Australia’s Family Law Act will better support children’s safety.

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Ritz
I won't answer your abuse, but I'll ask a question.

What university taught you to abuse others, (EG calling them "crazy")?

Would it be a university that emplyess people to break their discrimination policies, hide information, give out misleading information and carry out denigration of a gender?
Posted by vanna, Wednesday, 17 November 2010 2:30:17 PM
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"What university taught you to abuse others, (EG calling them "crazy")?"
-vanna

Why, the finest university in the land, of course: the famous University of Woolloomooloo.

"Would it be a university that emplyess people to break their discrimination policies, hide information, give out misleading information and carry out denigration of a gender?"
-vanna

No, because then they'd be guilty of at least fraud and discrimination, and god knows what else. Universities have a vested interest in not breaking the law. And I rather suspect that all the other Australian universities follow in the footsteps of Woolloomooloo Uni, and try to stay within the bounds of the law.

Now I have a question for you: why is it that my abuse of you (i.e. calling you crazy) is a BAD THING, whilst your abuse of universities is apparently kosher? Doesn't that seem just a little bit hypocritical to you? If abuse is always wrong, it's wrong regardless of whether it's directed at universities, feminists or vanna, and it is wrong of you to abuse feminists and universities in your posts.

For the record: libelous accusations of hiding data, providing misleading data and sexual discrimination are all defintely forms of abuse, unless you can provide some evidence to substantiate your allegations. Otherwise, you're merely being abusive.
Posted by Riz Too, Wednesday, 17 November 2010 3:48:37 PM
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Riz Too,
Did you have to pay a lot of money to the University of Woolloomooloo to learn how to abuse people?

I'll give you an assignment that I'm sure you will find easy to do.

Go through the author's copious articles that mention men or father's, and try and find where the author has written one good word about men or fathers.

I'm sure that won't take you long.

Robert,
I had a read of the survey on child death's in NSW. Appears that the greatest serious danger to a child is not the evil, wicked, evil, awfull, evil, nasty and evil father, but traffic accidents, suicide and drowning in pools and spas.

Odd how feminists never mention this, being so concerned about children and all that.
Posted by vanna, Wednesday, 17 November 2010 6:56:47 PM
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Can we perhaps get past this kindergarten inter-gender bickering and seek some common ground on which we can agree?.
Is it possible for example, to agree that violence against the person is a serious problem in Australia, whether it occurs in the streets, the workplace, the school, or in the home, and whichever gender may be the offender?. Can we agree that children exposed to such violence in the home are seriously damaged in their psychological and emotional development as well as possibly suffering physical injuries.?. If we can agree on just these few points, then we can move forward and look at ways to try to prevent such violence and protect children from the consequences. And in particular we could look at how children can be protected from the abuses they suffer in domestic violence situations and from inappropriate contact and custody arrangements with toxic and dangerous parents of either gender.
My view is that the essence of these proposed changes in the Family Law are attempting to do that, and will offer children some protection, no matter who the offender may be. If anyone has any better ideas of how children can be protected in such situations and their safety is put first and above the arguments and demands of parents, then put them forward for informed discussion.
But if you want to continue with the kindergarten squabbling, then this debate serves no purpose whatsoever.
Posted by ChazP, Wednesday, 17 November 2010 7:47:54 PM
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"Did you have to pay a lot of money to the University of Woolloomooloo to learn how to abuse people?"
-vanna

ROFLMAO

"Go through the author's copious articles that mention men or father's, and try and find where the author has written one good word about men or fathers."
-vanna

Why? I don't really care about the author's opinion towards men.

Now, can you please answer my question? It wasn't intended to be rhetorical.
Posted by Riz Too, Wednesday, 17 November 2010 10:35:46 PM
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ChazP, FR supporters constantly assert that fathers who commit suicide do so because they cannot obtain contact with their children, yet offer no evidence to support such a contention.

ChazP, Wednesday, 17 November 2010 6:39:33 AM

Evidence, this is a real curly one.

Firstly, one tactic used is not to collect data, as such it is easy to say that a problem does not exist.

Secondly, another is not to fund research, because the research does not fit with the governments or universities direction.

Eeva Sodhi did have a website 'NoJustice' and thank heavens for archives.

See Manufacturing Research
http://web.archive.org/web/20050313222440/http://www.nojustice.info/Research/ManufacturingResearch.htm

Manufacturing percentages
http://web.archive.org/web/20050310093735/www.nojustice.info/ManufacturingPercentages.htm

<Justice Canada instructs its research contractors to "make a careful choice about which indicators are going to be applied , because you want the indicators to reflect the gendered approach you are developing" >
http://web.archive.org/web/20050317002453/www.nojustice.info/PerceptionsarenotFacts.htm

<There can hardly be more insidious form of deception than the intentional manipulation of public opinion by presenting data in a manner which creates an ideologically motivated perception that one identifiable group is responsible for all evil while hiding the fact that those who are portrayed as the collective victims are equally culpable.>

Rarely do I find myself in agreeance with a feminist, but seeing that you dislike 'gendered' biased research. I hope you apply that scepticism to all gendered research and not cherry pick, which research that you are sceptical about.

I must admit, that years ago when I discovered that much of what I had be led to belief was in fact not true, it kind of caused a little bit of intellectual conflict. A clash between what I was led to believe was true and reality.

Now I am highly sceptical of alleged claims
Posted by JamesH, Thursday, 18 November 2010 4:32:06 AM
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