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Labor is more liberal than the Liberals : Comments

By Andrew Leigh, published 15/11/2010

Modern Labor represents the liberalism of Deakin better than the Liberal Party

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Gym fish,

In your attack on the liberal party, I don't see any actual instances of discrimination on the basis of race, religion, or gender.

The gay marriage issue (recognition of a de facto situation), given existing family law and the large portion of Australian society that does not get married, is largely a paper chase which the labor party also notably opposes.

The Labor party on the other hand is actively trying to restrict society as per the NBN, Labor laws and Net filter. So the premise that Labor is more liberal than the Liberal party is a joke.
Posted by Shadow Minister, Monday, 15 November 2010 9:37:54 AM
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I find it a real challenge at voting time in Federal/State elections. Trying to decipher truth from spin in Policy promises if they are elected to govern. Which ever Party is elected, seldom do they honour their election promises, they each blame the the opposition for blocking in the senate. In my opinion its an organised conspiracy by all the major political parties. Many of the politicians are from a legal back ground and are members of the Law Society, they use legalese language, which many words we think we understand, but often have a totally different meening. The vast majority of the people are from the working class and they are the ones who ultimately are hurt the most by government. My conclusion! NONE ARE WORTHY OF MY VOTE. My next blog will attempt to explain Legalese Language
Posted by gypsy, Monday, 15 November 2010 9:39:24 AM
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Understanding Legalese. PERSON! Are you a Person? Answer No. You have a person. A Person is not a Man or a Woman, it is a Legal Entity similar to a Corporation and it is used for all of your Commercial, Government, and 'Financial documents and accounts. Some points to note with reference to the 'PERSON' The PERSON is also known as a 'Legal Entity', a Straw Man, a Fictional Entity and a Trade Name.
The Person requires you, the flesh and blood Man or Woman to represent it in its affairs, furthermore, the Federal and State Governments can only apply legislation to this Person when you agree or consent to represent it. Your Silence is equivolent to acceptence or agreement.
Posted by gypsy, Monday, 15 November 2010 10:10:45 AM
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Egalitarianism isn't the same as equality.

Good old labor party traditions of twisting definitions to suit their political ends is an enduring part of the party and continues even while in it's death throes.

Australian egalitarianism holds and practises that the hard worker, like the richest person, like the most able academic, like the magistrate, is no better than the fishmongers wife, the unemployed sewer cleaner, the biased labor journalist, the lawyer or the self-promoting labor politician.

It holds that while all have differing abilities all are equally valued and accorded equal respect in any circumstance.

It recognises that each has different capacities and that the best among us are those that fill their true potential by becoming the best that can be. Whether that be cleaning a sewer and governing or intrepreting legislation and writing theses doesn't make one iota of difference with regard to value or respect.

Typically labor politicians cloud this with a need to get everybody to hold the same opinions and thereby to be the same.

I doubt Deakin would find much in common with Gillard, Argib, Shorten, Albanese, Wong, Brown and the rest of the motley socialist crew.
Posted by keith, Monday, 15 November 2010 5:09:41 PM
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"While liberalism derives from a deep belief in individual freedom, conservatism depends on where one stands. In defending the established order of things..."

Right, so when you remove certain issues what is the difference between Labor and Liberal?

I think the author and those "moderates" in the Liberal party should have a talk about forming a new party.

http://currentglobalperceptions.blogspot.com/
Posted by jorge, Monday, 15 November 2010 7:51:38 PM
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Who is really running interference going up to these next elections and what crap in fencing, no mention of the lack of local competition or the real costs and comparisons or facts on policy for these green labor inflations, which effect today's families now, with the loss of choice and purchasing power? No truth, just empty spinning text to fill a space and maybe meet his obligations to the green labor parties game of more waste, always an unaffordable cost to us lot of private sector producers. When will this green labor mob wake up to today’s costs to the community? It is no longer good enough creating problems only to promise more ambulances to win the next election, mattee...
Posted by Dallas, Tuesday, 16 November 2010 2:11:41 AM
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