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Sexual harassment will only be eliminated when men take part in ending it : Comments
By Michael Flood, published 10/11/2010Hey guys, if you're not part of the solution...
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Posted by jinny, Saturday, 13 November 2010 8:13:15 AM
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Suxanonline,
There was the group of female office workers who complained to the manager that a male worker was harassing them. This male worker was a little simple but completely harmless. During his lunch hour he would sometimes buy chocolates, and then leave them at the front counter for the women at the office. This was deemed sexual harassment by the women at the office and they complained to the manager, and the manager then had to go and tell the male worker not to go to the office unless absolutely necessary. After that, no male worker in the company would go to the office or have anything to do with the women at the office unless absolutely necessary. The ultimate would be the court case currently occurring where a woman is suing an Australian company for $37 million for alleged sexual harassment at the workplace. This involves being given a hug at a Christmas party and being asked to go to a restaurant. It is 100% likely that the allegations will be found frivoless by the court and the case thrown out, but the CEO of the company has lost an estimated $2 million in pay because of the allogations, and the company has lost an estimated $100 million because of a decline in share prices. That is a lot of money, but that type of money would mean nothing to academic feminists harbored by universities that just grab their money from the taxpayer. Posted by vanna, Saturday, 13 November 2010 8:20:12 AM
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Vanna, research into the bullying behaviour of school girls, found that they used the technique of telling, bad or false stories. Revealing confidences etc.
Now the example you gave of the female office workers accusing a male worker who left chocolates for them of sexual harassement, is an example of this female bullying behaviour. The aim of female bullying behaviour is to cause psychological and emotional pain, the bullies justified this because the victim either deserved it or was asking for it in some way. Basically purely innocent behaviour, can be made out to look really bad depending on the language used. I have seen where women do gang up on a poor unsuspecting bloke. Clarisse Thorn gives some good examples about how when men innocently reveal, it can be and is used against them. http://www.alternet.org/sex/148291/why_do_we_demonize_men_who_are_honest_about_their_sexual_needs/?page=1 Posted by JamesH, Saturday, 13 November 2010 9:08:55 AM
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Bullying occurs in all sorts of situations by all kinds of people.
However sexual harassment occurs when one employee makes continued, unwelcome sexual advances, requests for sexual favours, and other verbal or physical conduct of a sexual nature, to another employee, against his or her wishes. A box of chocolates would not qualify as sexual harassment. Posted by Lexi, Saturday, 13 November 2010 9:35:53 AM
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JamesH
All those sorts of manipulative bullying behaviours are used by bullies of either gender. Bullying and SH or any other form of inappropriate behaviour is not limited to men. No-one is saying it is. If a woman was to constantly grope a male colleage at work and obsessively stalk him with pleas of dates, sex etal, doesn't that employee have a right to some form of protection in the workplace. Women and men have a right to some peace in the workplace - work is for work. It is pretty obvious that there are some harmless flirting etc that goes on but for goodness sake we are all adults, we know the difference and a Court, Judge, Mediator should be able to nut it out without too much difficulty even if it just means saying to the alleged harasser "just stay away from X". Simple. We don't expect men alone to fix the problem, but they have to be a major part of the solution otherwise we are spitting in the wind. Posted by pelican, Saturday, 13 November 2010 9:41:31 AM
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That is precisely the point that is trying to be made. We all have to be part of the solution otherwise the problem will not be eradicated.
Posted by Lexi, Saturday, 13 November 2010 9:50:14 AM
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Why are you all arguing with each other? So what? Obviously there are some pretty sick people out there. Less then an hour ago, I had to deal with another sick person. It's a disgrace to humanity, but what are we, or can we do?
This is what we have to accept. The world we live in. It is so hard? With all we have. We have so much. Why can't you just start appreciating. What needs to happen, will happen in due time. It has been proven. How new is this "sexual harrassment"? It didn't even exist before. We live in a better place. Our consciousness has grown yes, obviously. But what is the point of fighting, when we are suppose to work together?