58% of those aged 65 to 75 don't have an internet connection
78% of those aged over 75 don't have an internet connection
36% of the age group 55-64 don't have an internet connection

Why would I bother to look all this up when you keep doing it for me to prove my point.

The National Broadband Network went from $12 billion to $43 billion in the space of a plane ride Rudd shared with Communications Minister Stephen Conroy. The only thought that went into it was a waah waah dummy spit at telstra for not playing ball in the bid process for the 12 billion dollar plan that was identical to the now liberal policy. That's what they went to the 2007 election with.

All this pie in the sky stuff about online doctors was a fabrication made after the fact. A fig leaf justification for an ENTERTAINMENT network. The vast majority of bandwidth we use today is for P2P movie and music downloads and porn. The bandwidth is sufficient for the next 30 years.

Just what have you got against putting fibre down the street and residences connecting to it if and when they need to and leaving the copper infrastructure in place as competition. Ready-built redundancy.

That's the biggest red flag, the pulling up of copper to FORCE people onto it. Just like closing other roads to force people to use toll roads. What a waste of money. It shows it hasn't been thought through, and they aren't confident people actually want or need it if they're so scared of the existing copper.

>58% of those aged 65 to 75 don't have an internet connection
>78% of those aged over 75 don't have an internet connection
>36% of the age group 55-64 don't have an internet connection

Do get it right and read properly.

Not "don't" -- didn't in 2007, three years ago. Trend indicators at the time when the 2007 figures were compiled indicated these groups had the highest rate of increase in new connections. And in that time, there was an overall increase of somewhere under about 40% in all new connections. (Except your beloved dial-ups.)

And prithee, why couldn't you just give us a rundown on the crossover figures from aged deaths to increases in connections?

Forgotten, have you, that you said these groups don't won't and can't ever use the internet ?

Suddenly the glass that was empty is now sort of empty or was sort of empty 3 years ago, even if it's a deal fuller now. Which of course, means the same thing. Sure.

The rest of your posting indicates your political agenda. And yet, amazingly you want to ignore the market realities at the same time.

Not worth discussing any further. You just want to push a barrow and ignore facts others can provide while you pontificate in ignorance and absence of any facts.