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Dying with dignity : Comments

By Neil Francis, published 8/10/2010

Eighty-five per cent of Australians want choice over how they die.

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Errr... I hate to bring this up, Cornflower.

>>Research involving the main target group, seniors 50 and above is the priority and the way ahead<<

But haven't you already told us that there are such research?

>>National Seniors has several hundred thousand members plus and the survey of its members showed 75% opposed to euthanasia<<

http://forum.onlineopinion.com.au/thread.asp?article=11043#184979

Just sayin'
Posted by Pericles, Wednesday, 13 October 2010 10:43:45 AM
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Pericles, "But haven't you already told us that there are such research?"

From a superficial reading you could obtain that view, but hopefully others would not because they would have done me the honour of reading all of my posts in the thread.
Posted by Cornflower, Wednesday, 13 October 2010 11:00:04 AM
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I agree with everything Cornflower has stated and brought to this debate. It is obvious that Cornflower has studied the material and evidence on which reasoned analysis is based. If one's life is so empty and the only excitement is when a hearse pulls up at the door, as in some aged facilities, it is understandable that death looks attractive. With better management and resources, these facilities can provide all that is needed for a rich and rewarding end of life.

I do not think that others should be involved in taking one's own life. If one believes that this is appropriate now or some time in the future, then one should make one's own preparations for this. It is hardly dying with dignity to have others involved ... Also, as I understand, if a person's pain is too great, the doctors will administer pain relief even if they know it it will hasten the end. It really is for research to develop better methods of managing disease and trauma. The risk of the concept of assisted euthenasia can lead to a malaise about this line of pursuit.

Logically if we apply the right of assisted euthenasia to the elderly and/or very ill, then we should apply it equally to very ill children. The argument being that "no one should die like a dog" should be especially applicable to children; or are they not considered to be of consequence in this debate. None have mentioned this. This really is a core issue as to the integrity of any argument.

Many argue for euthenasia, but it seems to be for the aged or very ill older adults. To have any value, the argument cannot dismiss any segment of the population.

On hearing a compassionate cry of putting someone "out of their misey," it often sounds more as if the observer is the most discomforted/uncomfortable at seeing a person in such as state, than the patient is themselves.
Posted by Danielle, Wednesday, 13 October 2010 5:36:01 PM
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comments attempted to be posted
http://bigthink.com/idea_feed_items/3314
but post failed ...so leave it here ..for now

What an important topic...asking many vital questions..so lets try shinning some light upon a few

When is it ethical to turn off a ventilator or remove a feeding tube?

this is so dependant upon informed concent...not just to save money ...or to get an empty bed....again other considerations ned to be made plain

like is the patient aware of life hereafter?
do they know the reality that energy cant be created nor destroyed..[thus the real possability of their LIFE ENERGY...needing to follow the same LAW]

then there are those who have been lied to...expect a day of judgment [when the reality is we are only given more of the same...as we chose in this realm]..those who did nothing..will get more [nothing]...those who loved much will get more[love]...those who injured will feel every stroke they put upon others

SO MUCH DEPENDS ON IF THE SPIRIT IS READY...for that moment the physical disolves into the emotional...[for the next realm is fully built on our emotions based on the action/reactions WE caused here...

When does 'life support' lose its meaning?
when life quality has no dignety...has lost all the oppertuinity to do the good works that earn the highest honours in the next life...

when those who have been decieved about one life ..thats it...many are just walking dead..these must be made aware there is so much more TO COME

And most critically, at what point is it acceptable to cut into a body and remove the heart that could save another life?
Posted by one under god, Thursday, 21 October 2010 4:46:28 PM
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this area is fraught with human error...we have long known the power of t-cells to heal...OUR OWN BODIES...less known is that our OWN fat cells have t-cells in them...its simply a matter of centrifuging them...then injecting them back into our ailing body parts...then sustaining life while the body rebuilds itself

it is playing with fire...much that passes as medical..lol..AID..is simply the docter setting the bone..so the body can heal ITSELF...of course its more complicated than we realise...yet also in the near future more Simple

should those of athiestic beliefs be killed...DEPRIVED of what they REALLY believe to be only ONE life chance?

religeon has failed us with much of their materialism...its time people realised the science FACT...energy CANT be CREATED nor detroyed..this law include's.. LIFE energy...

all must KNOW
we shall be 'born' again...its there the real 2de life story gets revealed and accorded its due fruit...this first life sets us up for the next...and thats a matter of god/you...

one to one...naught to do with religeon/science/docters/priests who clearly are serving their own material calling..or adgendas...

the next life is an amasing thing...
but so too the living of this one..
[so important as a beginning point ..to the next]

we are eternal..[immortal] spirits ..having a material incarnation

we each are sent here for one life term...
to get bailed ..from it retards the growth ..in the next
Posted by one under god, Thursday, 21 October 2010 4:46:53 PM
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