"o what a feeling " diver dan?

Perhaps in your more lucid moments there may be some who manage to understand what on earth you try to say.

socratease

Some good commens above, but to my mind they seem to lack a moral perspective.

The moral perspective in this situation is not whether we should be there or not, but the difference to found in a theatre of war to a peaceful situation.

The fact that our soldiers are in a war zone fighting a dangerous enemy on government orders cannot be equated with a common felon entering a bank with nefarious intent.

If a bank robber bursts into a bank and starts throwing grenades around or firing guns, how can that be equated with a military person bursting into a house on, presumably reliable intellegence, believing a terrorist is inside and being confronted by women, children and gun fire?

The robber is acting of his own free will in a peaceful community, the other is obeying orders which, if defied, would see him court martialled.

Does this not suggest that there is no similarity between the two events - that one is moral as defined by a war situation and rules of combat and the other is not, as defined by laws against property not yours, and civilian safety in a non-war theatre?

No one should decide from a position of safety and theory in a non-war zone the fate of military personnel under orders and serving in a war zone.

In other words, unless a commanding officer sees something out of accord with rules of combat and orders, and precedes with a charge against the soldier, those lacking real experience of combat should not interfere, or be permitted to interfere, as their experience and understanding is very different to those they sit in judgement on and no amount of legal learning can counterbalance lack of experience inside an area of combat.

The situation is not black and white as with that of a bank robber who offends the clearly laid down laws of a peaceful society

Hi there 'DIVER DAN'...

I have absolutely no idea to what you ellude too ? Might be a good idea in future, instead of speaking in riddles, masked in some sort of allegory, perhaps you should articulate exactly what your complaint is, in order not only to enlighten me, but for the benefit of others.

Apropos my 'varied occupations' - I've had but three jobs in my life.

(a) the military (8 years); (b) a 'screw' (7.6 years); and (c) the coppers, (32+ years) ! You got some problem with that 'DIVER DAN' ?

'SOCRATEASE', thank you for your support and kind words, I appreciate it. I sometimes wonder if it's worth continuing with both the Forum & OLO ? Most folk are pretty decent, and though many disagree with me, they argue their position, both eloquently and with some conviction, often laced with considerable humour.

Then there are those few herein, who need to unleash their bile and venom upon others for whatever their reason/s are, it sure beats me ?

Cheers...Sung Wu.

At Ease Socratease!

Again you rant through a part of your anatomy not designed for the issue of words.

You may continue to rattle the empty cans on the perimeter wire, and await the return of your Hero.

Well done "Private".

More than what can be said about yours, you dumb prick

socratease

a lot of these responses seem to be a rent-a-lout attempt to destroy the opportunity to discuss this issue .