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Grumble from the jungle: naming not shaming multiculturalism : Comments

By Andrew Jakubowicz, published 1/10/2010

'Sydney disease': the abandonment of multiculturalism while becoming cynical advocates of a racist politics of prejudice.

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Brian Kollin,

(1) thanks for the definition, however,it's not relevant to my question as it's purely normative.
(2) avoid ad hominem arguments such as "only those scared of losing their own cultural dominance question its validity or need", it's about the same intellectual level as claiming that criticism of our high immigration rate is 'racist'.

The definition you presented is a rather trite statement that still doesn't justify the existence of a government funded multicultural policy in a democratic society. Why not ask the various 'multiculturalists' to explain their versions of 'multiculturalism'?

I don't care about 'multiculturalism' one way or the other,as long as the promoters spend their own money,not the taxpayers'.
Posted by mac, Friday, 1 October 2010 5:02:52 PM
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Wow.

At first, I thought you were joining in the fun, Formersnag.

>>Yes, that's right, its another branch of cultural & economic terrorism, invented by CARS, Communist, Anarchist, Radical, Socialists to destabilise, weaken or "white ant" modern western capitalist democracy.<<

That's really funny. A worthy addition to the tongue-in-cheek approach adopted here to date.

Then I became suspicious.

>>Their mothers recipe for Sunday dinner after church may have been different, they may have started life with another language & needed to learn English, but apart from that, their culture was identical to ours<<

I see. It's ok, as long as they are Christians and European, is that right?

But wait. You move quickly on to...

>>Radical Extreme Muslims are another kettle of fish altogether<<

Haven't you missed out a bunch of people along the way?

Where do Chinese and Vietnamese families fit into your scenario? Is their culture identical to ours? Except for the Sunday lunch, of course.

And what about non-extreme, non-radical Muslims, who just want a peaceful life in an open and tolerant society? How are they "a recipe for racial & ethnic tensions leading to more crime, more wasted taxes, moral & ethical degeneration."?

But this is simply hilarious.

>>All of the Communist regimes who encouraged us to adopt this rubbish are cohesive, stable, Mono-cultural & Patriarchal regimes which are now rising above us White fools in the west after they adopted capitalism, economically, but remained as stronger, stabler cultures, or societies, than ours.<<

You've been to Russia recently, I take it?

http://www.newcriminologist.com/article.asp?cid=153&nid=2166

Be honest. You just don't like foreign people, do you. It's ok, there are still a few others like you who feel the same way. Just keep taking the angry pills.
Posted by Pericles, Friday, 1 October 2010 5:12:38 PM
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Multiculturalism is a misnomer, simply because there is no other culture that we accept entirely. We accept some aspects of some cultures but not all or any.

I consider us multi-racial, and always have been since 1788, but not multicultural. Our basic and fundamental laws, governance and social standards are all based on the British Westminster system and dispite some 40 years of diversity being imposed on us we still have the same basic standards.

The ideology of MC is that all cultures will come together and this is a fallacy. Take the Croats and Serbs, the Greeks and the Turks, Sri Lankens and the Tamils. There are others and these groups make a mockery of the term 'Unity in Diversity'. The Lebs don't seem to get along with anyone. The Indian caste system is an example of alien diversity.

MC has been shown to be a failure. I am just really disappointed that we compromise our own cultural standards by turning a blind eye to such activities as forced marriage and FGM. We still import people from countries where such things as incest and pedophillia are practiced, and some very alien culinary habits.

If we desire a cohesive community, we need to be selective as to whom we invite into our country, on a cultural basis.
Posted by Banjo, Friday, 1 October 2010 11:34:42 PM
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We do OZ MC a great disservice if we think it is no more than rainbow colour costumes, street pantomimes, and yummy treats.

It’s also given our politics more breadth : now, not only do we have policies for the young and old young, rural or urban (who are anyway often from the one clan) but we now have policies that target race/culture .

The goings on in the electorate of Bennelong –which has a large Chinese population -- are a good case study. In the 2007 election , Chinese from old peoples homes were being told that Howard was anti-Chinese and given a courtesy bus to nearest booth to express their disaffection.

And it got the result the mischief peddlers desired.

During the last round the incumbent again played hard on the race/culture issue.First co-opting Bob Hawke of -– after Tianamen square you all can stay, fame-- for a private dinner with the Chinese community leaders, and then Kevin Rudd of -–Ni hao ma? Wo shi bendan -- fame, to pop into the local Chinese language school.

But alas, poor Maxine, the Chinese community was a wake-up and the seat holder got the kick in the tail she so thoroughly deserved.

However, such profiling fools a lot of ”ethnic communities” a lot of the time.And I fear it is going to get a lot more prevalent ---and we owe it in a large part to MC.
Posted by Horus, Saturday, 2 October 2010 8:06:34 AM
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Gee Banjo, I'm Australian and I'm married to a Chinese woman and we get on like a house on fire despite our cultural differences. My experience seems to shoot a few holes in your latest comment.

Extensive traveling and living in other countries does help people to broaden their minds, helps them to see that humans are basically all the same wherever you find them.

Let's look for the positives rather than highlight the negatives, eh?

http://dangerouscreation.com
Posted by David G, Saturday, 2 October 2010 9:57:55 AM
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I much prefer 'citizenship' to 'multicultural' in the naming of a portfolio because citizenship denotes a mutual Australian-ness regardless of race or ethnic origin.

Australia is a multicultural nation - there is no need to spruik it from the hilltops and immigration in Australia is not exclusive of any race.

It is just more of the same organisations who think they might miss out on government funding. There is also support for new immigrants in the way of English classes and information sessions to understand our laws, system of taxation etc. There is no need for a multicultural department per se as multicultural Australia is firmly entrenched.

All Australians are protected by law in regards to equality and discrimination and I can't see any further value in a multicultural portfolio when the end has been achieved. The same goes for the Office of the Status for Women.

All a bit of fuss over nothing.
Posted by pelican, Saturday, 2 October 2010 2:33:02 PM
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