TrashcanMan you say that, “Lesbian couples can already have children. Just like any non-married, defacto couple can. AND they do, whether you like it or not. Therefore I fail to see how changing the legislation regarding gay marriage is going to make an ounce of difference.”

That’s my point. Children are being stuffed around so why give it more legitimacy? Why bless fatherlessness? By endorsing wrongs, you simply add to the problem and become an enabler.

The problem with adults-only libertarians is that they refuse to admit that fatherlessness and crime are good friends. As Dr. Tryce Hansen states: "Two women can both be good mothers, but neither can be a good father."

WE

We are sure your aware but we mention it now,
We Gay set believe we are “Holy Cow”.
We love to be seen at the “Gay Mardi-Gras”
We had it sanctioned by Premier Bob Carr
We belittle Christians, remember Fred Nile?
We target Conservative thought; that, we love to defile.
We scoff at the norms of society, wow
We too want to take the Wedding Vow
We know it’s not normal and the odd thing to do
We, we, we, we, just don’t care about you
We want the right to your children as well
We want rights to adoption, though that’s hard to sell
We captured PM with the art of Bob Brown
We know he hails from a “distant” Tasmanian town
We just don’t care the Crown is now ours
We suggest all dissenters get under cold showers.
We win the battle the war has been won
We want what we want and won’t that be fun….

Sad.

@ Jay Of Melbourne

I can't speak for other gay people, only myself. People who are not gay and were not brought up in an age of the "gayism" may see the whole context of modern homosexuality being forced upon them because this generation is much more open to homosexuality. I never force my homosexuality on other people, yes I am who I am - and I wont hide my sexuality. Often when Im on the internet I come across blogs like this and because so many people don't seem to understand homosexuality I feel obliged to post in a blog with my views, this is not about me forcing my views on you - its me simply explaining homosexuality though the eyes of me a gay person. Look you don't have to agree with gay marriage or homosexuality but labelling gays as intolerant or totalitarian is just silly and a huge over reaction.

@ floatinglili

"Opposing marriage for gays won't stop homosexual sexual abuse or bullying"

What sexual abuse? Because gays are a minority your more likely to face sexual abuse from a hetrosexual.

Jason84.
As I said, I'm not Anti Gay because of homosexuals, I'm Anti "Gayism" because like all "Ism's" it's ideology based on lies and prone to corruption.
All I'm really asking you to do is look at what and who has attached itself to your "cause", do you really think after all this time that you can still "use" the system?
You're being played by "Power", not the other way around, house rules, no exceptions.
I wish you well, as I do all homosexuals who want to contribute to a free and peaceful society but the way it's going you're encouraging neither peace nor freedom by allying yourselves with or asking permission from "The forces of Darkness".
Do you seriously want the support of people who kill babies in Gaza, or who starve the elderly in Pretoria or jail the politically incorrect in Ottawa?

Jason84’

Ask yourself a question or two; do you understand the word “No”: Self-respect: Consideration: Others: Restraint: Community: Low-profile: Driving wedges: Long-term effect: Back-Lash: Self-obsessed: And many more questions applicable to the subject, all listed under the heading, “Consequences”?

The other self-interested group in our society on a comparison to the “Gay Rights” movement today, and using identical strategies to achieve what has been masked as “Political Agenda”, is the “Sex Party”.

The sex party is a collection of socially sick individuals (Interestingly, the term socially sick, loosely describes the “Sociopath”) lacking in attributes from the above list of “Consequences” and equally the cause of social harm in our communities.

My question is “What is the final and ultimate goal of these two groups”; in simple terms, ”Where does it all stop”. Apparently there is no end; the quest appears endless and perpetuates under the banner of; “Human rights and inequity”.

There is a disturbing rise of Sociopathic behaviour displayed more and more in the public arena. In the more marked sense, all the above, however not only but also, a trend to violent and abusive behaviour exhibited particularly on the streets of our major Cities, as Law and Order descends into Riot by drunken Mobs, also attempting to control society and pushing agenda of personal interest, the right to drink to excess.

That is a right that also overarches all Social Norms and Conventions and is supported by Laws permitting endless opening hours of Clubs and Hotels; rights stealthily gained over time serving narrow interests.