vanna and briar rose,

ex Google,
On PM:
"CONOR DUFFY: At Government House today Comcars and limousines queued up for a prestigious ceremony with the Governor off New South Wales, Professor Marie Bashir. Tony Miller was there to receive an Order of Australia medal. He arrived early, but had to convince security to let him in."

http://www.abc.net.au/pm/content/2010/s2994558.htm

A very interesting, selfless human, it would be good if someone could interview him for an OLO article in the near future. I knew nothing of him until I read this thread, which is a little sad for someone who has earned the recognition and honour as he has done.

I read about Tony Miller's sad story in the media.

In the context of this discussion though, this claim from vanna is interesting:

<< The article mentions dads for kids, but the founder of Dads 4 Kids was Tony Miller >>

In the article, Warwick Marsh claims to be "the founder of Dads4Kids, a harm prevention charity". Is someone tellings fibs here? Was there a palace coup in Loserland?

As a "harm prevention charity", why would Dads4Kids let one of its founders end up on the streets?

Something doesn't quite gel here.

CJ is correct- although I did check the Dads4Kids official website, and it states that "Warwick & Alison Marsh-Founders of the Fatherhood Foundation (Dads4Kids)"

Excellent to see his wife noted as one of the founders as well.
I am glad the foundation is not full of divorced, bitter men.
All Board members are married with children, and are members of evangelical churches.

It certainly sounds like they do a lot of good for Fatherhood though.
Any foundation that works towards lowering the incidence of suicide in our country deserves to be recognised.

And look what I found Vanna! On the Fatherhood Foundation website- http://www.fatherhood.org.au/aboutUs.html
is the name and work of a University Professor extolling the virtues of Fathers:
"Dr Bruce Robinson
Professor of Medicine, University of Western Australia, Perth, WA. Bruce is an internationally respected researcher in his field of medicine. He is also the author of 'Fathering from the Fast lane', as bestselling Australian book with practical tips and advice for busy dads.

A doubt from the great name caller and abuser, the one and only C J Morgan, who, if not calling someone homophobic, calls them a godbother or troll (and these are some of his more polite terms). His university experiences made a great and everlasting impression upon building his character (cough, splutter).

Tony Miller was involved in founding a number of organisations if you are interested.

Here is the website of Dads 4 Kids where you will find the most alarming and divisive articles such as “Love, laugh, listen & learn” and “Resources for Mothers” and “New Dads”.

http://www.fatherhood.org.au

Those evil MRA organisations run by those evil males

vanna - if Dads4Kids is such a wonderful organisation that is a "harm prevention charity", how can it be that one of its founders ended up on the streets? Why do Warwick and Alison Marsh claim to be the founders, rather than poor old Tony Miller, and why didn't the foundation look after one of its own?

Rather than attacking me as you usually do, could you please explain the inconsistencies between what Warwick March claims and your assertions?

Suzanonline,
Interesting that you made the comment of MRA organisations being filled with “divorced, bitter men”.

Almost evey word from university academics about men’s groups describes them in such terms, which is negative, and that has been a part of the devaluing of such organisations.