Yes, but what conviction does he stand for. In order to meet our Kyoto targets, the Howard Government did a deal with the Beattie and Carr Governments to rip off farmers property rights by converting their farms into carbon sinks via Native Vegetation Laws.

Australia met its carbon reduction targets and the city folk were largely kept in the dark as to how farm properties had been made worthless carbon sinks without any compensation being paid to the farmers. On top of that, the government Malcolm was a part of relieved the farmers' of their carbon credits without payment.

As Environment Minister, Malcolm's response at the time of a growing urban carbon footprint consciousness or mindset (depending upon your viewpoint), was that it was OK to go out and buy a wide screen television. What exactly is it, that Malcolm stands for? More importantly who's interests does he represent? What involvement do merchant banks have in carbon trading? What sort of world is it where some people get paid commissions and make trading profits on other people's stolen goods and misery?

But he doesn't really have good political skills. This is why he could never gain any traction while he was leader. He doesn't build relationships, he looks silly when he's doing the 'opposition for the sake of it' routine and his oration skills aren't really good enough to communicate the complex (and often quite good) ideas that he does have.

People always claim there aren't enough idealists and party mavericks among politicians but they're never as kind on them in opinion polls.

"And he’ll ignore the stupid part of the Green agenda which would be to allow the boats to continue to come and in large numbers. He’ll stop the boats, and hopefully boost our input into refugee issues in other ways – via our formal offshore aid programs. “

I am not so sure what would happen if we cleared out all the camps in Indonesia now. There are only a few thousand trapped in these camps with nowhere to go. It would take the pressure off feeling that getting on the boat is the only way to go. At the same time we took, take a good look at the problem and set up new rules and strategies deal with future. The end game should be to deal with why they flee in the first place.

I'm sick of all this speculation.

Found a facebook page

To the 3 twits, Australia has had enough and wants back to the polls.

Turnbull is not simply admired by the left and right within the Libs. He is sooooo admired by swinging voters, Green voters, and a significant number of moderate, educated Labour voters. Pity he did not lead the Libs in the last election. He would have swept Libs to outstanding victory as most of the voting public was sickened by Labour treachery and their young, ignorant (from inexperience) and power-greedy back stage advisors (Arbib, Shorten, etal). The ETS, republic Australia, etc will become a reality under Turnbull. Let’s get Abbot (the ultra conservative, OUT and get Turnbull in for the next round. Sadly there are too many blind conservative Libs (old Howard gang) still remaining within the Lib party to see sense.

Turmbal might be sooooo admired by swinging voters, but I do not wish to pander to this group.

The swinging voter is ideologically barren,

they are those dullards at the debates, with 2 days to go until an election, with a blank look on there face who asks questions to which they should already know the answer.

They are the fools who send their money to Nigeria in the hope of getting the $1,000,000 in return for saving the Princess

They are likely on welfare and after taking a drag on their Holiday cigarette, complain that they don't receive enough dole for their 8 children, who all wearing Nike T-shirts possessing gravy stains.

They are the grubs who scream out Aussie Aussie Aussie, at the cricket, and who wait for a response with a self satisfied grin on their face.

They are the twits who line up for 5 minutes at McDonalds, and then need time to decide when asked if they can be helped.

They are the petrol station attendants who attempt to put petrol, into my diesel 4wd

They are the people you think the greens are an environmental party.

They are the fools who like to turn right at intersections when there is an unencumbered turning lane 50 metres beyond.

They are the dullards that refuse to go faster in the speed limit in the express lane of the M1.

They simply are the stupidest people in Australia