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Is a negotiated peace between the Greens and the Christians possible? : Comments

By Tim Wallace, published 20/8/2010

The latest exchange of fire between Cardinal Pell and Greens leader, Bob Brown, is a skirmish in a war without any foreseeable end.

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Very good article.
Do people believe that political parties are made up of mindless troglodytes who unquestionably support party policy to the letter without thought. As a member of The Greens I for one fully support most policy, partly support some policy and disagree with other policy. This is true of all party members that I know and I dare say true of members of other political parties, certainly true of Labor and Liberal party members that I have spoken to. I'm sure within the Church community there is a diversity of opinion on a wide range of issues. Unfortunately unlike political parties the church leadership is non elected and in many cases non representative of rank and file opinion and can voice their personal thoughts to their hearts content, claiming to speak for the whole flock in the name of God, something akin to speaking for the silent majority. Greens and (thinking) church members have much common ground on a diversity of issues.
Posted by Paul1405, Sunday, 22 August 2010 7:03:41 PM
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A negotiated peace is impossible because Pell does not have the authority to make a deal with the Greens or anyone else on anything. What Pope Ratzinger decrees, Pell expounds. Pell helped elect the most divisive Pope in a Century and has loves to play partisan politics with all the levers he can pull.

We are told by conservative members of mono-theist faiths that it is un-Chistian, un-Muslim and un-Jewish to limit human procreation in the name of environmental protection. Their head space is permanently locked into the utterings of their great prophets. In many global hot spots, there is a population race driven by a a fear of being out-populated by rival faiths.

Unfortunately, the best strategy to defuse all religious mind-bombs and particularly the population time bomb, is to preach the facts and the predicted consequences from the writings of eminant climate scientists. These are the modern day prophets who have a profoundly moral message for everyone.
Posted by Quick response, Monday, 23 August 2010 2:05:56 PM
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Cardinal Pell would be happier amongst all those dodgy characters in the Vatican, where he can retire into oblivion and stop being a general nuisance.

It's pretty clear he will be burning in Hell later on anyway, so there is little chance of anyone beyond the close knit circle of Vaticanites taking any notice of him.

Sadly, Abbott is one of those who seem to listen to his venom against 'non Christians', including the Greens.

Which is odd, given that the Greens are riddled with Christians, and far too many Catholics too.

Pell's problem is that he would have been listened to during the heyday of Bob Santagertudis, but these days, most people, even Catholics, have 'moved forward', leaving the likes of Pell and Family Jensen to linger in the fading light of their own brand of 'hateful' religion.

Perhaps Pell should go 'stateside', or to darkest Africa, where the Mumbo is still thought to be powerful Juju magic?
Posted by The Blue Cross, Monday, 23 August 2010 2:17:45 PM
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Hi TBC,

After we finished on Saturday us evil Greens went to the candidates home and ate pizza and drank beer, talked, watched TV. I don't know what the church goers done, but looking at their results they might have went out and nailed someone to a cross or burnt them at the stake.
Posted by Paul1405, Monday, 23 August 2010 2:31:42 PM
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Paul1405...well, I was out with a mixed group of cyclists, all with differing political views, but all of whom hoped the Greens would blitz the Senate, which they clearly did, and all of whom hoped Abbott didn't get in, while really hoping some miracle might transform the ALP from their idiocy into something worth having around.

The best outcome sounds like what we have, with Gillard and the independents running the show.

However Mad-as-a-Katter is, he's dead right on the abject failure of politicians to cater for rural and regional Australians, and Abbotts plans for the NBN are a prime example.

With luck, Bligh will be deposed up here in Qld, although there is absolutely nothing available to replace her with, so dull-witted are the Qld ALP.

I bet Keneally is aware of her fate right now.... dead meat.

I look forward to the recriminations from the ALP that will burst forth shortly, none of which will be directed at the weakness of the entire ALP caucus, and their total failure to control Rudd in the first place.

But if Gillard loses, she'll have to go straight away, preferably retiring altogether to sweep the floor at Tim's new hairdressing salon.
Posted by The Blue Cross, Monday, 23 August 2010 3:40:07 PM
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Jesus the anointed one, the Christ said these words "I am the truth the light and the way", and it is my guess that most here who puport to be his spokesmen have no idea what he is talking about. Because you live in a chook house and cackle doesn't mean that you lay eggs.
Posted by Richie 10, Monday, 23 August 2010 3:42:28 PM
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