Oh dear, elections always bring a tide-ring of scum around the political debates.

Gary Johns, why not go back to your right-wing roost and leave us all alone.

Your performance as an ALP minister was woeful, your politics always sat further right then even Keating and Brereton managed to drag the ALP, along with Hawke.

Go back to sleep, leave us alone, and keep living off your taxpayer funded pollie-lurks.

You have not-very-much to offer this debate, or any other.

"the assertion that renewable energy can't provide baseload power has been totally discredited so often that it is hard to believe that anyone could still make the assertion without knowing that it is false."

Funny, no one has yet built renewable base load supply, and even the few sites that claim to have storage are test sites that were enormously expensive. Renewable base load is at best theoretical and certainly a long way from viable.

The biggest risk to the greens is that with a modicum of actual power, they will be judged on their actions. So far, without having done anything, they have not done anything wrong.