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Holding babies won't cut it for Gillard : Comments

By Kellie Tranter, published 13/8/2010

Julia Gillard’s gender should be her greatest strength, not a political weakness.

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That's odd, Arjay.

>>Money only represents human productivity and potential.<<

That it is exactly the rationale behind fractional reserve banking. You lend money, on the basis of observed productivity, and the potential of the borrower to repay.

Productivity and potential. Pretty straightforward, really.

Incidentally, you do yourself no favours when you say stuff like this:

>>The harder problem will be getting our RBA to produce what is rightfully ours ie our GDP + inflationary money of $7000 for every working person pa<<

Take a look through this page...

http://www.rba.gov.au/monetary-policy/about.html

And then tell me how the RBA "produces money".
Posted by Pericles, Sunday, 15 August 2010 11:09:03 AM
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Hi Kellie,

I found myself nodding in agreement with the following.

'When we speak of gender we are highlighting our psychological and social conceptions of what it means to be a man or women. "Gender Schemas" refers to our intuitive hypotheses about the behaviour, traits, and preferences of men and women and boys and girls. Correspondingly, the term "gender roles" refers to expectations, to our ideas about how men and women are expected to behave.'

I think the great mistake of Labor was to ignore or try to gloss over the perceptions the vast majority of us have formed or had had formed for us of the behaviours of 50 year old bacholars or spinsters.

We've never elected a bacholar as pm before and that's likely because Political Party's in the past would have assessed the negatives in chancing of such a person... probably mostly of the perceived lack of a fully rounded life experience.

Whyever would we expect that to have changed?

Suspicion of never married spinsters is a raw behaviour and truely ugly when witnessed ... and it is widespread especially among long married women. Among such a group bachelors are looked upon with sympathy much along the lines of that given the sick or infirm.

Well sadly that's my experience anyway.
Posted by keith, Sunday, 15 August 2010 11:29:15 AM
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It didn't take long for 'moving forward' to crop up here. What a mindless phrase. I have yet to see lemmings go backward over the cliff. I see no sunny pastures ahead of us with Gloriana in charge.

Another mindless phrase used by 'listening' Gloriana and her faithful (for the moment) sidekick Whyne Swan, is 'back in surplus'. This drivel covers up the fact that when we get back into the surplus the Labour wreckers started with, given to them by the Coalition, we will be in a position to start paying the interest on the historic debt of $ One HUNDRED BILLION that Gloriana signed off on and have managed in record time to drop us into.

Last time the Coalition took over from Labour we inherited a mere $100 million debt that took all of ten years to pay off. Now it is a thousand times bigger.

I am astonished that the Labout party slogan makers missed the chance to say 'The Debt we had to have'.
Posted by Amfortas, Sunday, 15 August 2010 12:11:52 PM
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miacat:>> Ms Gillard with the ALP, and the Nation will try, as they have been doing, to work through these factors. We all need the courage.<<

Mia, where is the evidence that they "try" and why is "try" good enough?
Gillard was in the hub of the decision making process, one of four key Labor ministers who made decisions, but it was Kevs fault. She was Education minister and I listened to the BER issues month in and month out and Gillard did nothing, no reaction. I listened to the batts fiasco for months, four dead, house fires and the government did not react. Fuel watch, grocery watch, indigenous housing, solar scheme and on and on and Gillard is not at fault, it was all Kev.

Mia they are not good at their jobs, it is as simple as that. Courage of conviction over indisputable facts is a great character trait as long as you wear the consequence of your actions; these amateurs put "us" into debt. A debt that will not impact on their lifestyles given the remuneration they receive and gold plated pension scheme.

keith:>> Suspicion of never married spinsters is a raw behavior and truly ugly when witnessed ... and it is widespread especially among long married women. <<

Keith I have not had one person tell me that Gillards private circumstance is an issue, the media beat it up for headline with the boyfriend, but this is Australia not bible belt America, nobody cares here.
Posted by sonofgloin, Sunday, 15 August 2010 12:15:58 PM
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Even strong, intelligent, hardworking women are more easily lead into strife by those they trust and respect (by a factor of up to 15% over men). In politics they are often then used as fall guys.

Men on the other hand are far more single minded, and at the highest levels too single minded to see the bigger picture at times (as per Rudd, and probably Abbott if he wins).

Gillard has demonstrated both aspects - she should have been stronger against Rudd's excesses and in terms of the dud MySchools website for example she demonstrated a singlemindedness when she should have backed off a bit. I'm hoping this was just circumstantial - there had been too many other problems that Labor had to back away from (the cost of being politically adventurous with their policies).

Gillard is an atypical woman. She is far less prone to making decisions that are tainted by emotions - making her capable of more intelligent decisions than Abbott. Her negotiation experience, fighting spirit and drive are as strong as any male. I just hope she doesn't have to continually prove this strength of conviction, and in doing so overdo it - as that will make seem the vicious hag, the media and the Libs like to paint her as.
Posted by jimhaz, Sunday, 15 August 2010 2:25:37 PM
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"....as that will make seem the vicious hag, the media and the Libs like to paint her as."

Just where in the media and by whom in the Liberal Party has she been likened to a 'vicious hag'?

Straw Woman.
Posted by Amfortas, Sunday, 15 August 2010 3:19:01 PM
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