“In the final analysis, the meek and poor shall inherit the earth.”

No, Philip. It will be vicious Islam that will take over the earth while we fight among ourselves, sell out our culture, and refuse to take control of our politicians.

I am no religionist myself, but all of this hatred of Christianity displayed by posters here overlooks the fact the Muslims do believe in a god, and that god, Allah, is infallible to them. Allah exhorts them to kill the infidel and spread his word. Muslims don’t immigrate to the West because they like it. They hate the West and Westerners; the world caliphate is their aim.

Unlike enlightened Christianity, Islam never changes; the Koran is not open to interpretation. Unlike enlightened Christianity, Islam is also a political organisation: no man-made law is above Islam.

So, while everybody is busily attacking the traditions of the West, including its religion, Islam is using your self-hate and your scorn of your own culture to help you white ant it further. Islam is using the weakness of your politicians – politicians whom you are disinterested in and make to attempt to have them do your bidding – to immigrate to the West, legally and illegally to take over what you will not defend, even though it is all you have.

Those of you are who still living when Western culture has gone will not be able to whinge and bitch under 14th Century Islam

"AN Islamist website based in Australia is co-hosting an international forum this weekend.

It is described by a London research centre as an "online conference of global terrorists".

The forum, to be streamed live on the Australian-registered website Authentic Tawheed, will feature a line-up of speakers known for their militant teachings and links with al-Qa'ida and other terrorist groups.

They include British-based cleric Abdullah el-Faisal, who was previously a translator for British al-Qa'ida leader Abu Qatada, and who was deported from Britain in 2007 after being convicted of inciting racial hatred and urging his followers to kill non-Muslims.

The forum will "examine the current war against Islam and Muslims, and ask for how much longer can the kuffar (non-believers) fight against the deen (religion) of Islam, and the necessary steps needed for victory". A starting time of midnight tonight in Sydney is advertised." ('The Australian', 31/7/10)

How gutless are our politicians, allowing this? Conroy wants to censor the internet, but this is OK?

But Leigh, the intellectual foundations of Islam are exactly the same as the intellectual foundations of Islam. You can't attack one without attacking the other. This is why the churches of the West have been so slow to criticise Islam -- even offering alliances against the wicked atheists --because they know that in trying to do so they will expose their own weaknesses. As I have said here before: Richard Dawkins can show Osama bin Laden where he is wrong: the Pope and the Archbishop of Canterbury can't, because they are wrong in exactly the same way for exactly the same reasons.

As long as the secular West has to be tolerant of daft Christian beliefs it will have to be tolerant of daft Islamic (and Hindu, and Buddhist, etc) beliefs as well. Only a state that fully acknowledges the primacy of reason and logic can turn its full attention to repudiating all religions and the misery and despair that they cause.

Oops -- that should be 'the intellectual foundations of Christianity', of course.

Leigh, just because most of us are content to attack Islam only in Islam-themed threads (or simply can't be arsed), doesn't mean there is some gigantic blindsight towards it that Christianity lacks (and that is ignoring the fact that one religion clearly exerts a considerable amount of control on the nation (World Youth Day), while the other doesn't stand a ghost of a chance of doing so and is thus less of a concern as a factor of domestic social politics).