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Gillard's war : Comments

By Kellie Tranter, published 15/7/2010

The major political parties can't offer any sensible, rational, factual or logical explanation for remaining in Afghanistan.

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Yuyutsu, I never said on my blog that comments which oppose my own views will not be published.

What I said was: "Comments containing attacks on me, my blog, other contributors, obscene language, and rants from fanatics and ratbags will not be published." Please take more care with your observations!

Plantagenet, from birth, humans the world over are heavily indoctrinated. It starts from birth and we are rewarded for imitation, not thinking for ourselves.

Most adults are a product of their massive indoctrination be it via religion, social morays, television, books, educational institutions, etc.

For humans to survive, we need to throw out the indoctrination (because most of it is rubbish) and start thinking for ourselves. This means questioning things like war is normal, that America should be the world's policeman, that capitalism is the best economic system, that whites are superior to blacks, that men should run everything, that religion is necessary, that might is right, that greed is good, etc.

Freed from indoctrination, humans would walk a very different path but those who run our world don't want that to happen. They're making too much money and they love the power they have.
Posted by David G, Friday, 16 July 2010 4:46:39 PM
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Hi David G

Its a true sign of new found friendship that you show concern for my intellectual development.

Have no fear I think for myself - often at a cost to my relations to authorities - in ways that I can't legally explain in public. I've also viewed the teachings of "Life of Brian" many, many, times,

You will note that I can argue several sides like the earliest on "Posted by plantagenet, Thursday, 15 July 2010 12:18:08 PM" on this thread progressively before I find intellectual consistency, my truths, and answers to my values.

All this may not coincide with your sincerely held beliefs but that is the stuff of diversity and tolerance.

So I'm sticking with my Revised Post "Posted by plantagenet, Friday, 16 July 2010 10:18:52 AM" on this thread as my present position. This is now 'functional" in the word of that most dubious American philosopher and fixer - Richard M. Nixon.

Regards

Pete
Posted by plantagenet, Friday, 16 July 2010 5:25:19 PM
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There are between 20 and 33 million Afghanis, of a multitude of different ethnic backgrounds. Perhaps ten per cent are working closely with the Karzai government and its regional allies, and/or with the US. As well, hundreds of thousands of girls are now going to school for the first time. Many women have ventured out to work.

If the NATO/US forces decided to withdraw, it would take some time. What do you think those 2 to 3.3 million people will plan on doing in the meantime ? Stay and wait for the Taliban ? Or join the other forty million refugees around the world ?

Of course, many won't be able to: they will be trapped, particularly the women and girls. But hey, it's not our problem, we're losing troops there, so what's a few hundred thousand foreigners, women and girls, in the scheme of things ?

And is there such a thing as al Qaida or not ? Or like the Mafia, it doesn't exist ? Oh that's right, the Mafia DOES exist, it's not just anti-Italian propaganda. So if the Taliban return to 'power' [see below*], then al Qaida would have a base again, not to mention the morale boost to the Taliban in Pakistan and the LeT in Kashmir [memo to India: for Christ's sake, hold a plebiscite in Kashmir, let Pakistan have it if the people there want it that way - that's democracy] and al-Shabab in Somalia etc.

What happens if al Qaida (which doesn't exist, it's all a CIA fabrication) has a free hand to work out of Afghanisatan ?

We'll see :)

[TBC]
Posted by Loudmouth, Friday, 16 July 2010 5:28:19 PM
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[cont.]

* 'power' and the Caliphate: true believers, of whatever idiocy, believe that the word of God is final, total, not to be polluted by the mundane actions of governments. There shouldn't BE governments. The word of God/Allah should rule the lives of everybody in the world, who of course should be a believer: Sharia, the literal word of the Christian God, whatever. God should rule on Earth through his/her Word. Any non-believers should be ...... removed. The struggle shall not cease until the entire world is cleansed and claimed for God/Allah. Then peace on Earth, goodwill to all believers.

So give them a hand if you wish, help it all along.

'US out ! Now !'

Meanwhile, back in the real world ......

Joe
Posted by Loudmouth, Friday, 16 July 2010 5:30:36 PM
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While many here lambast the USA for war mongering,it is not the average US citizen who benefits.It is quite the contrary.Those who are pushing for wars exist in the USA Federal Resesrve, a private group of 12 international banks that own and control the US currency.They work in conjunction with arms dealers,oil companies,chemical,big pharma,and even the drug lords in Afghanistan,South America etc.It is corruption on a massive scale.

I think that after the last G20 meeting Kevin Rudd actually got cold feet and decided to self destruct via the mining resource tax.It was a no brainer from the start.He must have known who the really big players are and that they would have never accepted such a tax and that he would be rolled.To me,Kevin wanted a way out.

Julia Gillard wants the power at any cost to us,thus again is pushing for a carbon tax.Carbon is the basis for all life,and the source of our energy.Tax carbon and you tax life itself.It will be a life of serfdom for 90% of our society.
Posted by Arjay, Friday, 16 July 2010 6:22:17 PM
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