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One-of-a-kind businesses still hold powerful attraction for consumers : Comments

By Bryant Simon, published 15/7/2010

Global brands like Starbucks have to contend with a reinvigorated appreciation for the local.

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The Starbucks brand once appealed to global consumers pre-GFC era. Nowadays, people distance themselves from the ruthless 'greed is good' attitude to business, citing the toxicity of the GFC. Furthermore, small businesses everywhere are the deepest affected by the tyranny of the large multinational corporation, especially when consumers lose confidence in those institutions. As in 2008, the fall of some big institutions reverberated most amongst the smaller players in the economy. By corollary, the post-GFC global consumer understands that smaller, local businesses need their patronage to survive.

Perhaps any rebellion against global businesses like Starbucks is made by consumers who would like to disassociate themselves from global consumerism and their own role in today's society. Unfortunately, Starbucks is only facet that rebels can boycott and say they are anti-globalist or anti-consumerist. These people have a lost cause unless they propose to revolt against all products of global consumerism. Which, of course, is untenable. Just take a moment to digest the idea. Globalisation is a pervasive phenomenon that is unavoidable if the modern world's wheels are to keep spinning.
Posted by AGS1, Thursday, 15 July 2010 10:10:11 AM
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Personally I think Starbucks needs a few lessons from Gloria Jeans on how to make a decent cup of coffee.
Posted by runner, Thursday, 15 July 2010 10:25:53 AM
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"Runner"

Yet another reason to boycott 'Gloria Jeans'.
Posted by Severin, Thursday, 15 July 2010 10:53:06 AM
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Oh Severin

You are so intolerant.
Posted by runner, Thursday, 15 July 2010 10:56:14 AM
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Runner

You are hilarious!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I7e9vnwTjJA&feature=related
Posted by Severin, Thursday, 15 July 2010 11:12:27 AM
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Having been to the US, I can easily understand why Starbucks was so successful there. Unfortunately too many people see anything successul from the US must be good and spread it around the world.
Posted by dkit, Thursday, 15 July 2010 12:46:14 PM
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Starbucks is to coffee what McDonalds is to food. Gloria Jeans is to coffee what Hillsong is to Christianity.

Personally, I prefer real coffee and real food.
Posted by CJ Morgan, Thursday, 15 July 2010 12:59:23 PM
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I must admit Severin that some charlatans really do try and keep up with the Al Gores of this world. One lot use God to defraud people while some use the earth worshiping religion.
Posted by runner, Thursday, 15 July 2010 1:49:27 PM
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I am not familiar with Al Gore's earth worshipping religion as runner is, but find it odd that some who believe God to be the creator are more likely to disrespect what he created. I can't work it out but that's life - full of little mysteries and contradictions.

I am with CJ - give me real food and real coffee anytime and food that, as Michael Pollan said, would be recognised as food by your Grandmother.

Wasn't it a Maccas hamburger that someone left on a shelf for months without any signs of decay. Shudder that I ever ate one of those things.
Posted by pelican, Thursday, 15 July 2010 1:57:42 PM
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Pelican

You are correct it was a Big Mac. I haven't eaten one in years either. The idea it never decomposed; it ain't food as we know it, captain.

Living in Melbourne I have had no need to go to either Starbucks or Gloria Jeans - given the plethora of wonderful independent cafes that abound here, I wonder how chain-stores like these can make any money at all? However, there is the conundrum of a Maccas opposite the cornucopia of abundant fresh food that is the Queen Vic Market. Go figure.

Runner - you need to take as much care what you put in your mouth as you do what comes out of it. I kindly ask you to consider mindfulness.
Posted by Severin, Thursday, 15 July 2010 3:26:23 PM
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The problem is that Australia's business environment is an incredibly difficult one.

A global survey of 183 economies conducted by Price Waterhouse Coopers and the World Bank last year found that for total tax taken as a proportion of business income, Australia was ranked 127th in the world (meaning one of the most expensive countries).

This is a fact that overlooked in newspaper slants on the issue, which focused on other, far less impactful aspects of the interaction of government and business. Ease of payment of tax, for example, was applauded as coming in at 24th on the table.

Other aspects of the Australian business environment such as red tape also add up to long hours and low profits for Australian business owners.

We as a society are very complacent about the impact of high tax and red tape on our local business people. As a society, we seem to prefer a caricature of the rich, greedy local business person, to the detriment of our local shopping culture. We get the Starbucks we deserve, it seems.
Posted by floatinglili, Thursday, 15 July 2010 6:45:03 PM
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I am blessed to live in a Starbucks-free city. We have a Gloria Jeans (maybe two? not sure), but I have never spend a cent there. If you're ever in Townsville, Juliette's on The Strand does a great cup of coffee, even better ice cream and offers a much better atmosphere than and Starbucks I've ever seen.

Sadly, when in Paris, I did once go to a Starbucks (not by choice, I might add). It was a haven of Americans and other tourists who were blind to the good stuff available two doors down, three doors down, five doors down and in countless other cafes frequented by the French. They may be snobs, but they know quality when they see it!
Posted by Otokonoko, Thursday, 15 July 2010 6:55:15 PM
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Fraccy.. just in case you haven't tweaked to it yet.. Kenneth Copeland, Creflo Dollar, Benny Hinn, Peter Popov, and a host of other 'prosperity gospel' peddlers are as disgusting to Runner and myself and any other serious Christian as they are to you.

Here's a wiki list... to save you scrounging around

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Christian_evangelist_scandals#Mike_Warnke.2C_1991

But when you tire of all that muckraking.. you could always meet the One who's message they have so distorted.. it might be a refreshing change.

http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Matthew+5&version=NIV

As for Starbucks and their ilk... they make me wanna puke
Posted by ALGOREisRICH, Sunday, 18 July 2010 5:22:00 PM
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Boaz: << As for Starbucks and their ilk... they make me wanna puke >>

Does that go for Gloria Jean's too, Boazy?
Posted by CJ Morgan, Sunday, 18 July 2010 5:30:28 PM
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Could be an urban myth, pelican.

>>Wasn't it a Maccas hamburger that someone left on a shelf for months without any signs of decay. Shudder that I ever ate one of those things<<

http://www.diet-blog.com/08/do_mcdonalds_burgers_decompose.php

It hasn't appeared in Snopes yet, but the video would appear to be a reasonable standard of proof.

Oh, here's Boaz, peddling his wares again.

>>But when you tire of all that muckraking.. you could always meet the One who's message they have so distorted.. it might be a refreshing change.<<

Boaz, it would be so-o-o-o-o-o nice, if you would, just once in a while, recognize that yours is not the only religion that has brethren who have gone "off-message". Know what I mean?

Mind you, what that all has to do with Starbucks, I haven't a clue. Presumably God tolerates all kinds of coffee, since it was all his idea anyway.

Or does He only drink the finest espresso, complete with angelic crema, while Starbucks is simply a living example of the devil's work?
Posted by Pericles, Monday, 19 July 2010 2:35:20 PM
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It occurred to me after my last comment that Boazy is something of a Macca's fan - so why does Starbucks make him "wanna puke"?
Posted by CJ Morgan, Monday, 19 July 2010 2:58:33 PM
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