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Racist government, racist opposition, racist debate : Comments

By Jennifer Wilson, published 13/7/2010

We have 50,000 people living illegally in Australia. What is Julia Gillard going to do about them?

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Yawn

More leftist self-loathing. How refreshing.

Listen, if Australia is so racist, how come all these people want to come here? How come 50,000 people overstay their Visa's?

How about you write something positive about Australia for a change?
Posted by gw, Tuesday, 13 July 2010 2:41:38 PM
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Reasonable article except for the occasional porkie.

While visa over stayers might outnumber asylum seekers, they don't claim welfare, as this would flag their presence to the authorities, and if they do work, while they don't pay tax, neither are their wages tax deductible, so the jobs are generally those for which Aussies cannot be found. In addition, most return to their countries of origin before they become a burden to the state, and when found are swiftly deported.

All in all, the 50 000 over stayers probably cost the state a fraction of what the 3000 boat people do, who require, processing, housing, medical, education etc on the public purse.

While post is designed to indicate a sense of proportion about the boat people, its logic is as false as your outrage.
Posted by Shadow Minister, Tuesday, 13 July 2010 2:45:04 PM
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There is a difference between the Government and the Opposition. The former has proved it can stop the illegal boats with offshore processing and Temporary Protection Visas (there is no requirement to provide permanent asylum for anyone, provided they are not refouled) when they were in government.

In contrast, the latter (now the Government) encouraged illegals by scrapping TPV’s – thus giving smugglers the ability to tell illegals that they would get permanent residence - and, currently, the PM just like her predecessor, has stuffed up another ‘plan’ to halt illegals boats.

So, why doesn’t the Gillard Government do something about the 50,000 visa over stayers? Well, if Gillard cannot deal with obvious, in your face illegals coming on boats, she cannot be expected to be able to deal with the over stayers who have embedded themselves into the wider community.

Even the Opposition, which can, and will if elected, deal with the boat illegals by removing the people smuggler’s sales pitch for permanent residence, it is highly unlikely that they will be able to solve the problem of visa over stayers on a meaningful level because it is extremely difficult to find people when they disappear into the populace.

So, of course, Jennifer Wilson, a Left-wing academic with an interest in ‘human rights’ comes to the conclusion that both major parties in Australia are ‘racist’, as people of her kind do.

It surprising that academics have not been taught English and how to understand a dictionary well enough to know the definitions of words like ‘racist’ so that they could stop making fools of themselves, but that’s they way it is. Anyone who does something they don’t like is a racist.

Why are there so many people coming here, legally and illegally, if we are such monstrous racists?
Posted by Leigh, Tuesday, 13 July 2010 2:48:41 PM
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It is not racist to “… single out Afghans and Sri Lankans as public targets for deportation…” as part of border protection (weak as it may be) when it is only those two groups trying to enter illegally and making no bones about. The few over stayers who are caught and deported are of all races and colours, including the two groups mentioned by the author. Many of them are actually white Europeans – but Wilson couldn’t let that stop a good ‘racist’ story, could she!

But, to really ‘prove’ her point about the terrible ‘racism’ of Australia she drops the illegal entrant yarn to point out how ‘racist’ the NT intervention was. Her real intent seems to be to rubbish Australia – period.

The woman is far from being rational and logical. This old red herring has been brought up umpteen times, but the solution to stopping and ridding ourselves of visa over stayers – who are illegals once their visas have run out – has nothing to do with illegal boat arrivals. Certainly they should be caught and deported immediately, the rotten cheats. But none of the people who seek to say it’s OK to ignore boat illegal entrants just because we cannot catch other illegals who have come here with a passport and visa, have ever come up with a solution as to how we can increase the apprehension of these equally illegal people.

Using legal entrants who become illegal as a reason to go soft on boat arrivals is a stupid as branding us racist; neither will make any difference to the situation.
Posted by Leigh, Tuesday, 13 July 2010 2:49:54 PM
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Jenny also wins the prize for the most gratuitous use of the term racist in a single sentence.
Posted by Shadow Minister, Tuesday, 13 July 2010 3:10:17 PM
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To highlight the number of overstays is one thing but to fool the public into not seeing this as a separate issue is downright dishonest. Dr Wilson shows by her racist rhetoric that she is more concerned about her leftist dogma than she is the number of aboriginal kids that are abused. Otherwise she would not make such bias comments re child abuse. By her logic having additional aboriginal services which are numerous is racist against the whites. The intervention was necessary because of the epidemic cases of young girls with std's. To deny and ignore this is plain stupid or dishonest.

Anyone willing to think a little knows these overstays had not thrown away their documentation before arriving here. At least they arrived legally. They don't collect the dole or receive housing and medicare. Yes they should be deported just as all those abusing children should be dealt with by law. To fail to recognize that the issues of illegals risking their lives in boats and paying traffickers is different from the overstays is simply naive or dishonest. Being a Dr I suggest she is not naive but blinded by her own racist dogma. Anyone who thinks clearly can see it is better to discourage these boat arrivals rather than encourage them like the current incompetent Government has done. Now they want to change their policy (at least in the eyes of the electorate) without an ounce of humility in declaring that they have simply got it wrong. They now want to copy Mr Howard's solution and pretend that somehow they are more compassionate. Sickening really.
Posted by runner, Tuesday, 13 July 2010 3:29:11 PM
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