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Hardline policy on asylum seekers won't work : Comments

By Abdul Hekmat, published 16/6/2010

There must be another way to deal with the surge of asylum seekers without punishing them.

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Shadow minister.... *no kidding* :)

We have to unpack where the author is coming from......

Abdul Karim Hekmat is a "human rights advocate" and a youth worker.

I'm beginning to understand this is code for "I've plugged myself into the refugee industry, which receives huge and regular grants from the government tender process".. and caters for all manner of diverse matters such as accomodation (run by private companies in the case of AMES) BUT ..funnily enough..that 'private company' does not show up on the Australian business register..which it SHOULD..!

Soooooo...there is much much more to this whole refugeee/advocasy/accomodation/settlement than meets the eye.

Know anything about a 'company' called "Redback Services" in the private rental accomodation business in Eastern Vic suburbs?

I suspect the author has identified an income stream in the refugee business and feels it might be threatened by turning off the tap :)

Either that or he has half his tribe in transit to Australia on his advice.

Either way.. he is not speaking from a 'sincere heart' in my view.
Posted by ALGOREisRICH, Wednesday, 16 June 2010 3:05:11 PM
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Excellent work everybody. Good to see some of the Red/green/getup/labour coalition supporters waking up at last. Wasting vast amounts of taxes on detention centres is silly, just deport the boat people ASAP.

Whenever Qantas has an empty outgoing seat, fill it, only detain people until a flight out is available. Question everybody about the "People Smugglers", investigate them thoroughly, prosecute all of them, especially management.

ALGOREisRICH, i like your point about being a "nice person", in person, most of us are of course, but there are so many of "Lenin's useful idiots" out there.

Speaking for myself, i have found that trying to write in a cold, emotionless, manner has more impact.
Posted by Formersnag, Wednesday, 16 June 2010 3:20:42 PM
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That's a good point Al. Another simple policy is if a riot breaks out, EVERYONE connected to it is deported.

Also, another idea is to advertise Australia to these countries as a decadent secular nation being overtaken by militant atheists, with highly rigid policing, men kissing on the streets, excellent poppy-detection abilities meaning a trip back to the country of origin and alert the authorities of your conduct, burqa bans (even if that's not true) and a few other things that would frighten away the more pre-modern, hyper-religious nutcases, similar to what many European countries do in the Middle East.

It's great because it costs hardly anything in comparison to actual enforcement, we save money because less even attempt the trip to begin with, and best of all, it actually filters out the people we don't want but encourages the people we SHOULD want to come, and ultimately discriminates on fair grounds of behaviour.
Posted by King Hazza, Wednesday, 16 June 2010 3:21:24 PM
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I’m glad to see the renegade Liberal, Georgiou, is leaving politics.

Abdul Hekmat needs to pull his head in. We’ve just had two more soldiers killed in Afghanistan, when the likes of Abdul could be still in Afghanistan fighting for THEIR country, instead of living here, after arriving illegally, and telling Australian governments what they should be doing about “asylum seekers”. We all should be taking umbrage at Abdul’s article. How dare he turn up here illegally and tell us what to do! Particularly as he is not prepared to do anything for Afghanistan.

He says: “It must be stated again that under refugee conventions it is not illegal to cross borders and seek asylum.”

How many borders would that be, Abdul? Australia is the last border, after you people have passed through, or paused in, one or more other countries, where you don’t apply for asylum (you can do that, even in countries which have not signed the Convention), but you destroy all your documents, on the advice of the people smugglers you pay, and then arrive ILLEGALLY in Australian waters to be escorted by the Australian ship your smuggler knows how to contact. You tell stories (again provided by smugglers who know the ropes) and our incompetent, or weak, immigration officials open the gate for you.

Abdul also points out that “… almost all of the about 9,000 TPV holders that arrived between 1999 and 2002 are our fellow citizens now.” Yes. But that’s only because of a shocking ignorance and/ or a deliberate betrayal of the Australian people by its elected politicians. It does not mean that it’s right for those 9,000 people to be here. They just are: that’s all.

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Posted by Leigh, Wednesday, 16 June 2010 4:31:32 PM
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Then he says: “Refugees in the past have contributed to the Australian economy and have filled the skill and labour shortages”. Well, we see a lot of them hanging around in gangs, drawing the dole and being anti-social and hating the country that let them in. But, as for “contributing to the Australian economy and (filling) the skill and labour shortages”, we have orderly immigration for that, and it is the migrants arriving LEGALLY who are filling those roles in the first instance. We don’t just hang around waiting for people to turn up in boats.

I agree that something else needs to done about illegals and people smugglers. The Rudd Government is openly encouraging them to come here; the suspension of processing of Tamils and Afghans is just a sham, as the Tamils and Afghans still coming regularly are aware. Processing will start again, after the next election. All the illegals have to do is wait.

The only way to stop the boats coming is to turn them back, sink them – whatever it takes. Forget the niceties; the rest of the world can’t even stop countries like Iran and North Korea from threatening the world with nuclear weapons. Australia, with politicians with backbone, could do whatever it chose to stop illegals from even sighting the coast of Australia. Not a thing could or would be done about it.

And, it’s going to take longer than Abdul’s 50 years for Australians to forget the money and the lives it has cost Australia in Afghanistan, while our governments have gutlessly allowed able-bodied men and women to come to Australia illegally. Able bodied men and women who should be fighting the Taliban and the corrupt government instead of running away and leaving it to our soldiers
Posted by Leigh, Wednesday, 16 June 2010 4:32:39 PM
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Hazza.. yep...exactly. (re the riot).. but this is the challenge we are facing..... the 'industry' moguls (Labor...Green...Socialist) don't care about either common sense or, for that matter 'law'...

I have been almost dumbstruck to observe supposedly rational people claim the race discrimination law is only for the protection of 'minorities'.... Of course.. I would like to see the 'guidance' which usually accompanies laws, which is referred to by the legal fraternity.
Still.. you cannot argue with the clear declaration of the law that ALL are EQUAL under it.. I don't care WHAT the supposed 'guidance' is.

When people riot they immediately disqualify themselves from any obligation under the UN Convention, which we might otherwise have had for them.

It's not something that is even arguable. It's a simple fact.

Once they manage to get here...oooh..then the feeding frenzy on the public purse begins.. I'm trying to unravel that now as I have time.

I laughed when the article author said "I had friends coming on the same boat whose applications were suspended without reason."

Oooooh YEAH..I'll BET you had 'friends'... as in your whole tribe if you could get away with it.. like hell you will.. not on our watch at least.

2 elections coming up... this is not the time to mince words or waste them.. let's all of us do some door knocking and public activism.

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The good news is.. people are starting to wake up.
Posted by ALGOREisRICH, Wednesday, 16 June 2010 4:50:31 PM
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