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Legacy of a whingeing bogan : Comments

By Irfan Yusuf, published 7/6/2010

Why don't we have a consistent thread of resistance to racism running in our political and popular culture?

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For pelican's benefit, a good definition of the 'bogan', from the abovementioned blog:

<< What is a Bogan Today?
An excellent question. It is time to bring to the world’s attention the means by which we can keep the world’s bogans happy. The word bogan has had a bad rap of late – still associated with wife beaters, flannelette, VB, utes and mullets. But this conceals the new, modern bogan. The bogan with money. The bogan with aspirations. The bogan with Ed Hardy t-shirts. And this is no mere Australian phenomenon – in the US, you have rednecks, in the UK, chavs. While there are variations, the crux of the discussion remains the same.

The bogan today defies income, class, race, creed, gender or religion. The bogan is defined by what it does, what it says and, most importantly, what it buys. Those who choose to deny the bogan on the basis of their North Shore home, their stockbroking career or their massive trust fund choose not to see the bogan. They merely see old class battles revisited. Likewise, the bogan is no mere ‘tradie’. Even if tradies remained low-income workers, many bogans are affluent. And they set themselves apart by their efforts to stand out by conforming as furiously, and conspicuously, as possible. >>
Posted by CJ Morgan, Tuesday, 8 June 2010 12:01:40 PM
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CJ

Thanks for link, have emailed to various friends.

A definitive definition of a bogan is difficult, due to their spread throughout race, culture and creed. For example, I see James Packer as a bogan. Many disagree with me pointing out the obvious (from wealthy family, private education) to the downright confusing (Scientology). However, much of his lifestyle serves as a role model to any aspiring bogans: casino mogul, all things sport such as horse racing, ex-alcoholic - at least he was a boozer, I don't think a tee-totaller from birth would ever qualify.

Another distinguishing feature of boganism, is "my way or the highway", which would mean that George W is a bogan - well a redneck in US parlance. And also includes Pauline Hanson with her "tolerance" of those who differ. Can't imagine her campaigning for racial inclusion.

Question: Can one be gay and bogan?
Posted by Severin, Tuesday, 8 June 2010 1:15:54 PM
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No, no, Severin dear heart, a thousand times no...

>>Question: Can one be gay and bogan?<<

You silly muddle-headed thing, you, listen to CJ...

>>...wearing ugg boots, a flanny shirt and a beanie. In warmer weather, it's thongs, Metallica t-shirts and baseball caps...<<

What were you thinking?
Posted by Pericles, Tuesday, 8 June 2010 2:34:40 PM
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Pericles

Tee Hee

I just love the idea of bogan gays. Do you recall a Australian movie called "The Sum of Us" starring Jack Thompson and Russell Crowe? Tell me that Rusty didn't play a bogan gay.

Eh?
Posted by Severin, Tuesday, 8 June 2010 2:52:11 PM
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Bogan is just the catch-all word that people who think themselves superior use to deride "the other".
You know the people I mean.
Progressive egalitarians like CJ et al.
Posted by Proxy, Tuesday, 8 June 2010 5:26:37 PM
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How do you know the whiners are catholic?

And bogans? p[roof? Evidence? Genralistion much. stereootype much?
The most racist Australians I have met were christian arabs.

Are they Catholic Bogans?

Bigoted rubbish.
Posted by TheMissus, Tuesday, 8 June 2010 7:07:02 PM
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