proudmary,

I don't believe that the women who wear the Burqa in the West are forced to do so. The overwhelming evidence from their own mouths and from non-Muslim advocates who support them is that they do it out of choice.

It is only stereotyping and political correctness that cannot accept that women might be just as fundamentalist as men. Looking at other religions and taking Roman Catholicism as an example, it is the women who are the guardians and strength of Catholicism in the home and in the parish. It is the mother who sends the child to Sunday School, nags the family to go to Mass and argues for the religious education through Catholic schooling. The church might well be a patriarchy but it is strongly supported by the matriarchy in the home.

I was watching a recent program about blood feuds in a particular country where the point was made that while the men are the physical agents of killing, the blood feud tradition was in fact maintained by the women.

It is a weak excuse for women in Western democracies to say that men make them do anything when the reverse is often true. More importantly, we all have choice and should be responsible for our choices - that is being adult.

“Oh come on, dickie. You shifted your argument for banning the burqa from the bogus grounds of communication problems for the deaf to linking women wearing the burqa in Australian with terrorists in Pakistan.”

C J Morgan- That presumption would only be endemic to a manipulative mind when in fact I shifted no such thing but simply included other negative aspects of wearing the burqa, apart from the difficulties the deaf have in communicating with a face rag – not that those ‘bogus’ obstacles for the hearing impaired would concern callous people like yourself.

Furthermore, my pseudonym happens to be ‘Protagoras’ not ‘Dickie’ and as I advised another spiteful gentleman from the backwoods, who also believes he’s in charge of this forum, if you object to my pseudonym, take your complaint to Graham Young, otherwise address me by the appropriate and approved pseudonym.

Should others wish to change their pseudonym it is actually none of your business and I don’t take kindly to your insinuation that I am posting under false pretences:

1. “Some great comments above. I've wondered a few times lately if Protagoras was you, Dickie, but your contribution to this thread has left me in absolutely no doubt! Reading your posts is like watching that show the other night - painful, but enlightening - and very valuable if we are going to help bring about change. Thank you as always.”

Posted by Bronwyn, Monday, 14 September 2009 11:26:11 PM

2. “Greetings Bronwyn and thank you for your kind words. Dickie, my magnificent (and once feral) feline has gone to his secret place where he runs for fun, instead of running for his life. It was an appropriate time to change my pseudonym.”

Posted by Protagoras, Tuesday, 15 September 2009 12:12:04 PM

Do try to keep up C J Morgan.

proudmary,

I don't believe that the women who wear the Burqa in the West are forced to do so.

You don't believe? in other words you just don't know. There are books out there, written by many muslim women who say the exact opposite.
Oh! let them wear the ugly thing, our gaols simply could not cope with all those men that would suddenly start raping them if they suddenly started shucking them.
Plus we need the stones for our gardens and roads, not wasting them being turfed at raped muslim women.

Whatever, Protagaras - I wouldn't want to remind you of your dead cat. It doesn't matter what you want to call yourself, your earlier comment to which I alluded was classic Islamophobic vilification.

What did you think of Sara Haghdoosti's article?

proudmary, "You don't believe? in other words you just don't know."

In fairness you should have quoted all of it rather than give a misleading impression of what I said. Here it is in full, "I don't believe that the women who wear the Burqa in the West are forced to do so. The overwhelming evidence from their own mouths and from non-Muslim advocates who support them is that they do it out of choice."

Who is going to stone them in Australia? Call the cops!

There seems to be a lot of people who have it in for the moslems.

I wonder why ?