Cheryl

I notice you say the author cries out 'Asians and Muslims out'....

would you mind cutting and pasting that particular quote, as I had trouble locating it in the article.

I did notice he mentioned the 'quality' of the immigrant.. I presume by that he has the best interests of upstanding aussies like you in mind where he (if he had the choice) would refuse a visa to people with National Socialist background ? I assume also he might hesitate to embrace those who were LTTE members ?
How about you? would you offer visa's to national socialist 'connected' people (those who did not have any conviction for specific war crimes) or.. LTTE members who were running from those they had been trying to kill ?

I really did not get the impression from the article that it was 'Asians and Muslims OUT' as you put it..

Perhaps a mild exaggeration on your part ? because it would never ever be anything like xenophobia oops..I mean Pasquarelli-phobia.
U know "phobia".. irrational fear.

Well AlGore, it does seem a bit rich that John is not only against the quantity of migrants but also the quality. So he is using the anti-population argument in a devious way. Why haven't the SPA come out against that. They are very shy.

It's like saying you don't mind black people living next door to you as long as their criminally-minded, bomb crazed kids don't play with yours.

I could be old fashioned but many of the migrants I know are small business owners. Their success is a result of their hard work and the tolerance of the society of difference in which they live.

A. Would agree that the history of migrant settlement in Australia has been remarkably successful?

B. Or, would you say that there are packs of gun crazed Muslim gunmen waiting to attack us as we celebrate ANZAC Day?

I'll leave it up to you. You university entrance hinges on this answer.

The Australian newspaper strongly supports the business elite, so they want to discredit anyone who opposes unending growth in population or consumption. That is why they gave column space to John Pasquarelli, a former adviser to Pauline Hanson, in the hope of smearing others with racism by association, even if they have had nothing to do with One Nation and their concerns are based on damage to the environment, availability of water, food security, given peak oil and phosphate, etc.

The Australian's tactics suit Cheryl just fine, so she has just tried to smear Sustainable Population Australia (SPA), even though among their objectives is

"To advocate low immigration rates while rejecting any selection based on race."

Cheryl no doubt knows this because she has claimed to visit the SPA website. If she could find anything racist to link to, she no doubt would have done so to give herself credibility. Since she hasn't, it is reasonable to believe that she is making it up as she goes along.

"Ownership of Australia legitimately rests with the Aborigines and all those whose ancestors helped lay down its pastoral, industrial and cultural foundations and who served the nation in war. The remaining shareholders are those who have totally assimilated and whose allegiance is solely to that of Australia. Dual citizens are not included in the mix."

Silly me! I thought that owning a house and land and paying taxes for over thirty years might give me a say in the disposition of our wealth, but obviously not. I'm just a migrant.

Seriously, any approach which treats immigration policy as if it were up to a unilateral decision by Kevin Rudd or anyone else is just staggeringly naive. What do you think would China and India will do, Mr Pasquarelli, if we reduce our migrant intake to a trickle? Nod and smile politely? The least we can expect is a massive trade war which will beggar this country: and if that's all that happens we should consider ourselves lucky. It's pure fantasy to pretend that we could close our borders without major repercussions. All we can do is what we are doing now -- steer and push a little from time to time: and in general, as Cheryl suggests above, we are doing reasonably well.

"Instead, all Australian governments, in their pursuit of multiculturalism, have bowed to the UN, particularly on the question of refugees, ordinary Australians having been sold out by their elected representatives, most of whom covet a cushy UN job."

Damn the UN. I didn't know they were that cunning. I mean, they sat back and let the Serbs ... but enough.

Divergence, you and me have had our differences, granted. But I reckon you can see that John Pas is riding the anti-population sentiment for all its worth. He has co-opted your argument and is now turning it in to a race issue.

I have sometimes had a go at the SPA and others, saying that this was always a possibility and now it has happened.

Hi Cheryl

"It's like saying you don't mind black people living next door to you as long as their criminally-minded, bomb crazed kids don't play with yours."

Thankyou for giving me a smile so early in the morning.

Have you been spending time on 'StormFront' by any chance ? :)

Let me pose a question to you.. "Is immigration closely conneded to political outcomes and social engineering?"

Let the UK labour party answer that.

http://www.freebritannia.org/post?id=3765819

Let's unpack this obviously right wing tabloidish web site content a bit and distil it to just one quotation of interest...from a Labour source.

[Former Labour minister Frank Field said: 'I am speechless at the idea that people thought they could socially engineer a nation on this basis.']

Is this a lie, misquote, or true?

More ....

Andrew Neather, a speechwriter who worked in Downing Street for Tony Blair and in the Home Office for Jack Straw and David Blunkett, said Labour's relaxation of controls was a plan to 'open up the UK to mass migration'.

As well as bringing in hundreds of thousands to plug labour market gaps, there was also a 'driving political purpose' behind immigration policy, he claimed.

Ministers hoped to change the country radically and 'rub the Right's nose in diversity'. But Mr Neather said senior Labour figures were reluctant to discuss the policy, fearing it would alienate its 'core working-class vote'.

NOTE.
You could probably 'google' any phrase in that to find original articles
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/politics/lawandorder/6418456/Labour-wanted-mass-immigration-to-make-UK-more-multicultural-says-former-adviser.html