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Labor complacent as Indigenous gap widens : Comments

By Jack Waterford, published 21/5/2010

Seven houses for Indigenous Australians! That's not bad for three and a half years work and hundreds of millions of dollars.

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Twenty people to one house, is this overcrowding? Or is this a combined income of $4,000 a week? Surely some builder would build three (3) houses for $2,000 a week guaranteed? ( think bags of flour and kangaroo ) Then after about five (5) years the houses would be owned. That would be five (5) to a house. At four rooms each, extra toilet and shower, a lounge or sleep-out for the extra person. Compatibility? everyone keeps changing around until the right combination. And the income is back (with indexation) to about $5000 a week. This model could be passed on. And people to be encouraged to live twenty (20) to a house to start off. The Commonwealth Government to give full support with financial incentive or concession via Centre-link. And State and Local Governments to provide and maintain necessary services. The housing problem will, solve itself !
Arthur Bell.
Posted by bully, Friday, 21 May 2010 4:16:15 PM
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Aboriginal Peoples have Lived and even Thrived in central Australia as elsewhere for many thousands of years Without Anyone Building Houses For Them ! Our ancestors built their own Gunyahs when and where it was necessary. As with most cultures based on hunter gatherer traditions. What about the old, " home is where you lay your head "?As many simply lay down and slept next to the fire. As many of us do today ! But according to the Aboriginal Victim Industry (A.V.I) including misguided and Out Of Touch Aboriginal Academics, we were, are, ALL HOMELESS PEOPLE ! And also we were, ALL LIVING in POVERTY ! WE JUST DIDN'T KNOW IT ! So air-conditioning with multiple showers and toilets is the way to go according to the AVI. Many with a vested interest in this area. What about ( selective?) cultural appropriateness ? Also, air-conditioning is known to cause a lot of respiratory problems. What if this increases and people start dying because of this ? No doubt the AVI will find someone else to blame as they are very PROACTIVE (one of their latest favourite words ! ) in this area ! ( blame apportioning )Or is it a case of, don't you worry about that we will just need , More Community Consultations and of course, More Money! ( in other words it fits in with their agendas ! ) (( they may even have planed it this way ! ))
Arthur Bell.
Posted by bully, Friday, 21 May 2010 4:25:20 PM
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Housing Problem ? (3)
What a screw-up this issue of Aboriginal Housing ! The Aboriginal Victim Industry ( AVI ) is a major contributing factor ( again ! ) These people with a vested interest. For instance on the talk back programne ( murry country radio) up here in Brisbane the other day re the construction and handing over of promised houses, it was stressed and emphasised that, with these new houses, ( also to land-lords ) Cultural Practices must be taken into consideration. ie. When relations come to town for a funeral or wedding, they are accommodated by the people with houses. These Visitors can also come under the umbrella of " extended family " ( and like termites, can be a problem to get rid of ! ) But the house-holders are expected to put up with these minor inconvienences because they, we are " Aboriginal " and it is deemed " Culturally Appropriate " But then the next day at another venue or another meeting, it will be a complete, arse about face! Or in political terminology a " Backflip". And the approach or line by the AVI this time is, This is Outrageous !! This is Overcrowding ! The cause of Sexual Abuse ! and, This is why the houses are damaged ! To many People ! It is the Government's fault ! We demand More Houses for Our people ! And so, Round and Round We Go ! And with no problem solved ! This has been happening all round the Country, and for a few years, this circus ! I think it was Noel Pearson that said " people with no investment in a house will have no respect for it " Was he refering to " The Australian Dream" with Everyone buying their own house ( home ) ? As opposed to someone being given a house ( home ) ? Is this relevant ? ( for more info on these and other issues, whitc.info ) Arthur Bell
Posted by bully, Friday, 21 May 2010 4:35:44 PM
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ok, ok, I didn't continue reading past the seven houses. Any figures as to how many houses were built in the same time frame by the private sector ?
Are more or less houses being constructed by people who pay for them or are more houses built by Government. It might be better & quicker for people to get their own houses rather than wait for government. Just a thought.
Posted by individual, Friday, 21 May 2010 9:14:22 PM
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Firstly do NOT construct Aboriginal housing out of timber ....
Second - windows & doors optional but glass a bad idea. Furniture - built in concrete block benches can't be tossed smashed or burned :-)
Third - running water - showers & sink is good. WC is bad. Outdoor longdrop dunnies better prospect.

Lastly - anyone who expects Government and the "aboriginal industry" to work together and produce tangible results with value for taxpayers money should immediately present to their closest Mental Health Unit for assessment of their delusional state ....

Oh, I forgot. Most Mental Health facilities are State run and funded. Good luck with that then ...
Posted by divine_msn, Friday, 21 May 2010 9:48:11 PM
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Closing the gap with Australia's first peoples is about updating Australian governance.
A female minister fronting men's legislatures of original intent doesn't cut the mustard.
The magic bullet is women's rights from which all else proceeds.
Readiness and attendance is achieved with parliament and corporate management
conducted by agreement between women's and men's legislatures and committees.

'Men never used to boss over the women, the women are their own bosses.
Posted by whistler, Friday, 21 May 2010 11:37:02 PM
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