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Sink or swim : Comments

By Kellie Tranter, published 10/5/2010

Every now and then an issue comes along that is beyond the reach of politics. Rising sea levels is just such an issue.

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I can swim so I dont care
Posted by sneekeepete, Monday, 10 May 2010 1:34:25 PM
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Kellie - you point to various stories about rising sea levels affecting food sources in the NT and of South Pacific islands sinking under the waves. As is widely acknowledged the sea level increase for the entire 20th century was of the order of 20cms (much less than a foot in the old measure). Michael T points to a link of satellite measurements suggesting that the rate of increase may now be a little bit more.
In other words, although there are some islands in trouble out there, sea level increases to date have been far too small to be the problem. There are other factors in these matters, including local subsidence, which may be natural or may be due to, say, the locals extracting too much ground water. If you really want to do green you should pick your ground more carefully (pun intended).
Posted by Curmudgeon, Monday, 10 May 2010 2:21:24 PM
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Similarly its possible that neutrinos from a massive solar flare are causing the temperature of the Earth's core to increase rapidly. This will trigger a catastrophic chain of natural disasters. In, 2010 international leaders, begin a massive, secret project intended to ensure humanity survives. Approximately 400,000 people are chosen to board ships called "arks" that are constructed in the Himalayas. Additional funding for the project is raised by selling tickets to the private sector for one billion euros per person. By 2011 they start to move humanity's valuable treasures to the Himalayas, so that their history can survive when the end comes.

The question is, how come there’s no publicly funded lottery? Secondly, are cackling geese part of a conspiracy plot?
Posted by Cheryl, Monday, 10 May 2010 2:39:34 PM
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Posters appear unaware that sea level rises are not all about them and their houses and foolishly quoting the unscientific hubris from industry shills such as Carter and Gray demeans their position.

Both are members of the NZ Climate ‘Science’ Coalition and publish for industry front groups. The peer-reviewed papers written by Gray was >seventeen years ago – not on climate but coal, where Gray was a researcher for the coal industry and Carter is a marine geologist drilling for oil and gas – hardly reputable sources on matters of climate science.

Other human activities affecting rising sea levels (according to Curmudgeon) do not mitigate the problem which remains anthropogenic because trans-national criminal corporations will continue to bludge off the environment with impunity.

During 2009, Zhou Qiulin, professor with the Third Institute of Oceanography of State Oceanic Administration warned that ‘during the past 50 years, the accelerating speed of sea level in China had exceeded the average global speed and the Bohai Rim,Yangtze River Delta and Pearl River Delta have been the worst affected regions.

‘So far the sea level's rising has destroyed 70 percent of China's sand beaches and the coastlines are drawing back at an increasing speed in different regions.

‘Zhou warns that the rising sea level had also caused more frequent storm tides in China's coastal areas. For instance, in the past decade the Yangtze River Delta was affected by storm tides 2.5 times more than in previous decades.

‘At the east bank of Liaodong Bay in northeast China's Bohai, the coastline is retreating toward the shore at an annual speed of 15 metres. Between 1998 and 2002, parts of the coastline areas on Hainan island retreated by 80 metres.’

The current migrant intake into Australia will be a drop in the ocean compared to the millions of climate refugees seeking dry land elsewhere in the geologic future but inaction may also render that dry land, a temporary refuge.

Meanwhile transnational polluters rejoice over inaction but a bust always follows the boom times so may I suggest that the next bust may come from an outraged planet?
Posted by Protagoras, Monday, 10 May 2010 4:03:06 PM
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"an outraged planet" sheesh where do these people come from?

(that's rhetorical, no response required)
Posted by Amicus, Monday, 10 May 2010 4:38:13 PM
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Protagoras - your professor Zhou Qiulin is a right, raving nutter. Do you a link for him? Beaches receeding 15m a year through sea level increases! Half of the beaches in certain areas being destroyed! sorry but even the IPCC agrees that the increases are 3.1 mm a year and that just does not add up to mass beach destruction.. If you have correctly reported him Qiuline deserves to be locked up..
Posted by Curmudgeon, Monday, 10 May 2010 4:58:33 PM
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