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Boys in trouble : Comments

By Peter West, published 7/10/2010

There’s lots of evidence that young men are in trouble. Boys look for good role models but what do they see?

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I laughed when I saw that this article was based upon a lecture given at Kings School. This poncy, elitist, 'rich-man's children only' school has 'perfect' role models unlike schools in the Western Suburbs.

There's not much equality in education, is there?

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Posted by David G, Thursday, 7 October 2010 5:06:00 PM
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I'm just so fed up with this role model crap. We don't have any ! All we get to see is sport & crap music being shoved down our throats. There's no role model in that. If we really, really want our kids to become intelligent adults then we should send them to schools overseas.
We've got 40 years of evidence that our education system is not worth the name.
Get intelligent teachers & you'll have intelligent young people within two semesters.
Posted by individual, Thursday, 7 October 2010 5:25:37 PM
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It was a rubbish article.

Boys are doing abysmally and all this so called 'expert' on boys education can do is say we should catch them doing something right.

For the first 100 years or so of mass education, before the misandrist revolution, boys regularly outperformed girls in pretty much everything. It was considered girls were less intelligent than boys. Then feminists completed their long march through the institutions and suddenly boys were being comprehensively outperformed by girls in all areas.

This wasn't the result of some accelerated counter-Darwinian evolution by boys. The fact was that educationalists wanted girls to do better and to do this they wanted boys to do worse. They did this by moving the goalposts. For example, feminists didn't like the fact that boys are naturally better at maths and physics. So they simply changed the curriculum to make what were hard sciences more like social sciences and hence more attractive to girls.

Other education reforms have also hurt boys: the lack of discipline in schools; the endless talk/discussions and group work; the anti-male bias of the curriculum and of many teachers.

Wenk, you are absolutely right. Before we took the anti-male turn we used to see boys as being full of energy but needing guidance. Sport was seen as providing an outlet for that energy while discipline in schools was seen as necessary for guiding that energy into productive pursuits. The history of the world bears this out. Even a prominent feminist has said if it were up to women we'd still be loving in caves. This is true. It was men who put men on the moon. If it were up to women we'd still be empathising with one another in our caves.

When feminists like Dr West see themselves as advocates for boys, is it any wonder boys have no chance at school?

TRTL, I like your 'harden up and deal with it' advice. I'll remember it next time I hear about glass ceilings, pay disparity, housework, sexual objectification of women and the other ad nauseum rubbish that feminsts bleat on about.
Posted by dane, Thursday, 7 October 2010 5:52:54 PM
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Silence is what we get from Nina, Helen etal. All the indocrinated feminists who bleat on about equality and sexism and disadvantage.

What a big bunch of hypocrits.

Who do not their beliefs or what they beleive to be real, challanged.
Posted by JamesH, Thursday, 7 October 2010 7:40:56 PM
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Ahhh...Dane...behind every man is the GREAT woman!
Posted by we are unique, Thursday, 7 October 2010 11:19:41 PM
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What always amazes me about these little gender squabbles we have on this forum is the contributors going on about how badly off boys (and ultimately, men) in our society are.

All these boys in the education system do have mothers I imagine?
Most mothers can and do move heaven and earth to ensure their sons get a fair education.
I don't imagine any 'feminist educator' would be able to talk these female mothers into allowing their sons to have an inferior education to their daughters?

I agree it is sad that male teachers are now few in number in most schools. All kids should have a variety of people teaching them at school.

But do we want to go back to the 'good old days' when many boys went to boys only schools (usually private schools), where many boys had a very traumatic education to say the least?

I don't believe that there is this big, bad feminist scheme out there trying to undermine the education of our boys.
That notion is more than a little paranoid I reckon!
Posted by suzeonline, Friday, 8 October 2010 12:33:47 AM
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