The United Nations is a shambles of null interface with reality. Until it becomes a Democratic Institution with no vetoes, it will remain a shambles.
As for Law, international or American, it too is a shambles of over-use and over-complexity.
Are there no moral laws to guide us any more? Israel's behaviour is immoral as was Hitler’s. Must the world at large pay forever for Hitler's immorality while Israel's Immorality is becoming hard to distinguish from Hitler's?
The myths and fantasies of Israel's past are as flimsy as all Religions. The Palestinian people are real; they were not party to the Second World War, why should they withstand the worst of Israeli revenge? Why not Europe? Is that why Europe is saying nothing while they have a "whipping boy" in the Palestinians?

Perhaps it's a bit late to bring back the British Mandate.

Many people in Israel want all of the territory of Israel/Palestine.

Many Palestinians want all of the territory of Israel/Palestine.

What would Solomon advise ? Cut the territory in two.

That didn't work the first time around.

Both sides agree that the entity of Israel/Palestine should remain as one. Let's assume that they are both right.

Simple solution: Israel/Palestine as one secular, democratic and demilitarised state, under the supervision of the UN for the next, say, one hundred years. Expel the religious zealots on both sides and learn to get on with each other.

Otherwise, don't waste our time, there are much bigger issues in the world.

David Singer,

Watch this clip

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=npjOSLCR2hE

Take note of John Cleese's words. Substitute the word "horse" for "parrot".

The horse you are beating has demised.

It is deceased.

It has passed on.

It has expired and gone to meet its maker.

It is an ex-horse.

No amount of beating will bring it back to life.

Even among the diminishing number of countries that do not wish for Israel's demise none would support Israel's claim to any territory beyond the 1967 borders. No amount of sophisticated argumentation about so-called "international law" will change that fact.

So get real Mr. Singer

The talking and blaming and hand wringing is nothing more than cover for Israel's determination to exterminate the Palestinian race. The talking and blaming will continue until Israel has achieved its terrible ends.

This is exactly the kind of one-eyed partisan nonsense that stands in the way of any solution to this endless dispute.

Singer starts by quoting the Secretary-General's call for an independant Palestinian state standing along Israel, and then concludes by asserting (with no evidence offered) that the SG is somehow wafted by a wave of hate that seeks the elimination of Israel. Ban Ki-Moon may not be the greatest SG ever, but he is most definitely not animated by or compliant with any desire to eliminate Israel. It is virtually defamatory to suggest this.

There are waves of hate from minorities on both sides. THIS IS THE PROBLEM. The solution is to by-pass these extremists and work on a solution that will be accepted by the reasonable majorities of the two peoples. Achieving this looks a long way off. This doesn't justify advocating a solution that is even more impossible to achieve.

Neither the Palestinians nor the Jordanians favour incorporating the West Bank into Jordan. The idea doesn't have a lot going for it if it is opposed by all of the major players and all of the peoples concerned!

#mac, #bushbred, #ozandy

Seems I have struck a raw nerve. It must gall you that the Jews have the right in international law to build in the West Bank and East Jerusalem under the terms of the Mandate and article 80 of the UN Charter.

Argue against my conclusions if you dare but don't waste your time in senseless attacks on the messenger bearing such unwelcome tidings.

#Jeremy

Britain was the Mandatory Authority and terminated its role in May 1948. The UN was left holding the bunny and could possibly still seek to determine the allocation of sovereignty in the West Bank,Gaza and East Jerusalem in accordance with article 80 of its own Charter. So far it has shown no intention of doing so.

Read and digest article 6 of the Mandate and Article 80 of the UN Charter and you will understand why my claim is not far fetched.

# rexw

You overlook that "apartheid, road blocks, the withholding of supplies and medical services" would not be happening in 2010 had the Arabs really wanted to see a two state solution and create a new Arab state alongside Israel between 1948-1967 in the West Bank,Gaza and East Jerusalem - 19 long years - when not one single Jew lived there after having been driven out of their homes by the invading Arab armies in 1948.

The Arabs have never miss an opportunity to miss an opportunity.

The golden opportunity offered between 1948-1967 to create a new Arab state in 100% of the West Bank,Gaza and East Jerusalem will not return.

# Sherkhan

If the Palestinian people are real why did they not accept the 1947 UN Resolution to create their own state alongside a Jewish State and continued to reject such a proposal between 1948-1967 ?

Wallowing in self pity after the horse has bolted is a bit rich

Whilst you wax on about immorality what are your thoughts about the morality of 21 Arab states allowing 4 generations of Arabs to be kept in refugee camps rather than being resettled and integrated into those 21 states?