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Fathers and bias in the Family Court : Comments
By Patricia Merkin, published 26/3/2010Why is the Family Court of Australia giving s*x offenders access to children?
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Posted by rstuart, Tuesday, 6 April 2010 10:28:26 PM
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Goodad ~ you and [deleted for abuse and commenter suspended for three days for repeat abuse] rstuart see the world from your own myopic and narrow perspective of your personal feelings and experiences. (You would claim no doubt that every biological father in Australia is exactly like you). I have to tell you that not all biological fathers feel and behave towards their children in the same way as you claim to do. It may come as a surprise to you to know that some biological fathers do sexually abuse their daughters (and their step daughters) and in many instances have even killed them. Ah but you say, step fathers and live-in lovers do it more often than we do. I don't think your fine distinction between them matters to a sexually abused or dead child. I really think you have little knowledge of the world and its ways.
Dunn's research is saying exactly the same as Floods - the absence of a father figure (whether biological, step-father or de facto - note Dunn makes no distinction) does affect children's development and educational performance but other factors such as the quality of parenting and the quality of the relationship between the parents have far greater effect on children. i.e. poor parenting and domestic violence have far greater impact on a child than the absence of a father. DOH!. Posted by ChazP, Tuesday, 6 April 2010 10:42:57 PM
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RStuart<" @ChazP: explain what healthy reason an adult male would have for looking at photographs of naked children
Because when it comes to sex, healthy adult males love variety and novelty. Part of their genetic programming is to seek it out. They don't always sick with it once the novelty wears off." Really? Can I ask the other adult males on this site if they think it is 'healthy' looking up child pornography? Did you for one minute think of the children who were used to make these pictures? I didn't think so. Posted by suzeonline, Tuesday, 6 April 2010 11:03:50 PM
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ChazP,
The word myopic is one that describes your views not mine. It's not difficult to see who is biased and harbours covert prejudices on this site. That person is you ChazP. Flood is a sociologist and studies society. Dunn is a world respected Psychiatrist and is far more qualified to comment on the various effects on the human adult brain and indeed the brain of a chid and behaviour. ChazP, you are not comparing aples with apples. You are spinning an arguement to suit your biased opinion. On a final note, you have little knowledge about my own personal feelings and experiences, therefore why do you comment as though you do? You also state.."(You would claim no doubt that every biological father in Australia is exactly like you)". This is an irrational comment made by a desperate person searching for rationale that does not exist in your illogical and poorly constructed arguement. Posted by Gooddad, Tuesday, 6 April 2010 11:52:39 PM
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Intact 2 parent families: 1,621,483 (69.1%)
Step/blended families: 103,424 (4.4%) Total 2 parent families - 1,825,952 (77.8%) Lone mother: 450,679 (19.2%) Lone father: 69,495 ( 3%) Total 1 parent families - 520,174 (22.2%) http://www.education.vic.gov.au/researchinnovation/vcams/parents/24-3livingintwoandoneparent.htm Population just between ages 0-14 = 4,000,000 children. Mayo clinic compiled studies: 17 - 31 % of females under age 17 sexually abused. 7 - 16 % of males under age 17 sexually abused. Therefore, of Australian children 0-14: 340,000 to 620,000 female children and 140,000 to 320,000 male children Total: 480,000 to 940,000 of children up to 14 years old (plus population aged 14-17) will have experienced sexual abuse by age 17. "21% of the females and 44% of the males experienced repetitive assaults" "Studies and case reports indicate that 30% to 80% of individuals who viewed child pornography and 76% of individuals who were arrested for Internet child pornography had molested a child." "Fifty percent of offenses committed against children younger than 6 years were committed by a family member, as were 42% of acts committed against children 6 to 11 years old and 24% against children 12 to 17 years old.2 The study by Abel and Harlow15 found that 68% of “child molesters” had molested a family member; 30% had molested a stepchild, a foster child, or an adopted child; 19% had molested 1 or more of their bio-logic children; 18% had molested a niece or nephew; and 5% had molested a grandchild." http://www.mayoclinicproceedings.com/content/82/4/457.full Kim C. From fantasy to reality: the link between viewing child pornography and molesting children. Child Sexual Exploitation Update. 2004;1(no. 3). Available at: www.ndaa.org/. Accessed February 19, 2007. I don't understand why people here are minimizing the issue of child pornography trying to normalize it. I don't understand why good men are not offended, much less outraged, at OTHER MEN who do these things. These offenders are representing masculinity because other males ignore, minimize or deny - effectively giving silent assent to it's continuance. In no other realm is the over used adage more applicable: "If you aren't part of the solution you are part of the problem." Posted by Pynchme, Wednesday, 7 April 2010 1:23:22 AM
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Rstuart claims that a healthy adult male likes variety in sex - I don't have an issue with that, healthy adult females also enjoy visual imagery and variety in sexual enjoyment.
However, from what I understand of my own species, sexual interest in children be it from simple observation through to actual sexual interaction with children is not a 'healthy adult' perspective. There are good evolutionary reasons for this - children are neither mentally nor physically able to engage in an equally consensual sexual relationships. This includes posing for explicit images for the delectation of adult males. I would love a quick poll on male contributors to OLO as to whether they consider viewing child porn as part of their "genetic programming". Further insult to male responsibility have been the claims that biological fathers are responsible for the care and well-being of their children, but adoptive fathers aren't. Again I would be interested to hear from male posters as to whether they agree that this claim is true. If so where does this leave the children of divorced and remarried men - do they neglect their step-children while doting on their biological offspring? Could some real men step forward and respond to the claims by Rstuart, et al that: 1. Viewing child porn is acceptable. 2. That non-biological fathers are a danger to children. I don't believe the above to be true. The men I know love and care for the well-being of their own children and others as well as the well-being of their partners. Posted by Severin, Wednesday, 7 April 2010 8:23:54 AM
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I'll repeat what pelican said above:
@pelican: If I read an article about a mob of deadbeat mothers who are heroin addicted during pregancy and birth and inflict awful pain on their newborn child, am I immediately going to think all women are deadbeats?
Apparently pelican, you do if you are ChazP.
@ChazP: This clearly shows the `logic' of rstuart et al, is more than a little flawed and irrational
The passage you quoted did not mention biological fathers. Whatever information you divined from it about biological fathers came from your own imagination, ChazP. By the looks of it your imagination is a pretty dark place.