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Beware of the climate change mind police : Comments

By Chris James, published 18/3/2010

The genuine scientists who worked on the IPCC report have been lost in the mire of the climate sceptics’ PR propaganda.

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Beyond wild speculation that there is a conspiracy about - what evidence do you have that "The result is clear: an absolute campaign of mind control is occurring,"

The fact a lot of people disagree with you doesn't mean you are right and they are wrong does it?

You may be wrong, have you thought of that?

So if a lot of people do not think the way you do, you come to the conclusion they are in the pay of whomever you don't like this week?

I know many skeptics of AGW, not one of them receives funding for their point of view.

How would this conspiracy work?

Is there advertising involved, the only advertising I have seen is Pro-AGW, in fact in the UK some has been banned for massive exaggeration.

Do the conspirators hold meetings?

How are they organised?

Have you conspiracy theories about other things?

More wild speculation and exaggeration with a fantasy topping from the AGW side of the house.

No tip of the at to the massive funding and world media sympathy for AGW at all mentioned.

Quoting the Guardian newspaper a declared pro AGW tome, as is the Age in Australia, try to get a balanced view, but I guess to true AGW believers, that is the balance you want.

Speaking of mind control, is that what you would like? So no differing opinions to the ones you subscribe to then?
Posted by Amicus, Thursday, 18 March 2010 9:50:18 AM
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The evidence of a 'conspiracy' by resources corporations to deny the evidence for climate change is documented in "Climate Cover-Up" by James Hoggan (Greystone, 2009).

The evidence that the climate is changing is here:
http://www.csiro.com.au/files/files/pvfo.pdf
and here
http://www.sciencealert.com.au/news/20101803-20724.html

That leaves those who continue to deny the evidence and so place at risk all future human generations morally on a par with holocaust deniers - except that, unless we do something about it soon, the holocaust will be a small event in comparison.
Posted by JulianC, Thursday, 18 March 2010 10:07:32 AM
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After decades of baseless green propaganda, Chris James accuses those who didn't buy it of being part of a propaganda conspiracy. How does that work?

How stupid are people who believe scare stories starting with "if" and ending with predictions of disasters a century or more from now (but in the meantime we need to give billions more dollars for further research)? Well, Chris is there for them.

But she fails to deal with ANY of the recent documented developments, such as the unmasking of the gang who have corrupted the peer review process, the revelations of the IPCC's incompetence in manufacturing its four propaganda reports from tourist brochures and WWF and Greenpeace lies, the acceptance of unvalidated speculation, the "adjustment" of global temperature data ever-upwards, the deletion of all records of how and why those data were adjusted, the deletion of sites which failed to deliver the required warming record, and so on and on.

Despite this, she promotes scare stories and bemoans the fact that there are not enough true believers.

She slimes Sarah Palin and others and imputes "grave" results for Australia without actually explaining what they would be. She supports Byron Bay neurotics who want to build a sea wall (why not an ark, Chris?) She blindly believes the "modelling" of that renowned source of climate wisdom, the Gippsland Coastal Board (the qualifications of whose members are not stated) - and, as you'd expect, it's all underwritten by a monster international conspiracy theory.

Chris, you need to get a grip on reality.
Posted by KenH, Thursday, 18 March 2010 10:14:22 AM
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As a mindbender, the author does not inspire confidence, as she has misdiagnosed the cause and the effect of socalled climate change mind controlling. If she had bothered to do some rigorous homework, she would have discovered that it was the environmentalists and the socalled scientists who believe in anthropogenic global warming, who have waged a relentless mind-controlling campaign to con politicians, the media and ordinary voters into believing that climate change is human-induced. As many people now are coming to realise, there is no convincing scientific evidence to support the propaganda of those deceptive mind controllers. The whistleblower responsible for exposing the Climategate scandal deserves to be awarded a Noble Prize for services to humanity. If the author is serious about ascertaining the facts about climate change, she could consult the following website reference:
http://scienceandpublicpolicy.org/images/stories/papers/reprint/climategate_analysis.pdf)
Posted by Raycom, Thursday, 18 March 2010 10:55:54 AM
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Quite so - Australia is funneling billions into climate research and is set to spend billions more on alternative energy due to the government setting targets for renewable energy, and really a sinster energy industry conspiracy is stifling developments in the sector? After years of merciless abuse of opponents and overt political statements, global warming scientists are somehow hapless victims? This author is truely immune to all reason. At least the article could have made some acknowledgement of the very serious allegations made against global warming science - all the way from missing weather stations in China through to reprinting activist material in IPCC reports. There is a lot of it. I would be interested to see how the author would turn it all into a conspiracy.
Posted by Curmudgeon, Thursday, 18 March 2010 11:05:03 AM
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A colleague sent me this quote recently Dr Chris James, found at http://www.silverbearcafe.com/private/03.10/future.html. Perhaps you do not think it applies to you but I believe it is something you need to think long and hard about before you continue with your conspiratorial notions.

"In a future without the New World Order, individualism should be prized above all things. Government, schools, business, and other
infrastructure would operate with the primary purpose of nurturing the individuation of every man, woman, and child. Unique thinking should be encouraged, not punished. New ideas should be welcomed and considered, not immediately ignored or ridiculed. Children should be taught the strength to be as they truly are long before they are thrust into arithmetic or science.

This, though, is not the way of our "modern" culture. In today’s system, we are punished for questioning the immediate standards. We are rewarded if we conform. Our lives are made difficult if we refuse to pander to those in authority, or if we choose to survive by honest means. Our lives are made extraordinarily easy if we bow to authority and use dishonorable means against others to "get ahead." If we strive to fit in, to dress, talk, think, and feel like others, we are adored and accepted by the collective. If we stray even a little from the mainstream, we are attacked viciously, or even feared, as if we are a time bomb on the doorstep of the establishment. Even some so called "counterculture" movements behave in this fashion, often, in a completely unconscious manner.

Every person is born with an inimitable and distinct "self" outside the influences of environment. We might call it genetic imperative, or we might call it the soul, but in either case it is a precious gift. Until the defense of this gift is given social precedence, until we become champions of its cause, our cultures will continue to devolve and our nations will continue to crumble, with or without the help of the Globalists."
Posted by Raredog, Thursday, 18 March 2010 11:10:13 AM
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